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Old 08-24-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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There is hope here in life when looking at the "Global Index Of Religion And Atheism" research.This worldwide research is showing that the people that are religious is decreasing by big numbers in many countries. Here is an example:

Comparison between 2005 and 2012 in drop in Religiosity
% change in

Year 2005 2012 Change
Global Average 77% 68% -9%
Vietnam 53% 30% -23%
Ireland 69% 47% -22%
Switzerland 71% 50% -21%
France 58% 37% -21%
South Africa 83% 64% -19%
Iceland 74% 57% -17%
Ecuador 85% 70% -15%
United States 73% 60% -13%
Canada 58% 46% -12%
Austria 52% 42% -10%

I can't get the graph above to look good so the numbers mean for Ireland for example that in 2005 the number of people answering that they were religious was 69% and in 2012 the number was 47% which is a 22% decrease.

The numbers are not the same thing as saying that these people are now atheists but the trend is that the importance of religion is decreasing fast. The only exception to this rule is in the underdeveloped world where it is not decreasing.

You can read the research here in PDF format:

Click Here to read the research


I wonder why there is such a big decrease....Finally there seem to be some hope for us non-believers that we are getting larger and that we are getting our point across....

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Old 08-24-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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the digital age of information rages on. religion is dying a slow death
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:03 PM
 
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the digital age of information rages on. religion is dying a slow death
Let's hope it dies before some religious loon in power (George Bush tried) initiates the tipping point event that will end civilization if not all life.

Thankfully George (Dumbya) Bush was too stupid and incompetent to start more than 2 wars, had he been more capable he would have attacked Iran, Syria and Libya also.

Remember, he said that the voices in his head told him to, and he thinks the voices he heard was "god". Reasonable people know it wasn't a god, but that doesn't matter when his delusion turned Iraqi babies into stains on the walls of what had been their homes, does it?
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Old 08-24-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Default Right On, Mawhster Chung!

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Let's hope it dies before some religious loon in power (George Bush tried) initiates the tipping point event that will end civilization if not all life.

Thankfully George (Dumbya) Bush was too stupid and incompetent to start more than 2 wars, had he been more capable he would have attacked Iran, Syria and Libya also.

Remember, he said that the voices in his head told him to, and he thinks the voices he heard was "god". Reasonable people know it wasn't a god, but that doesn't matter when his delusion turned Iraqi babies into stains on the walls of what had been their homes, does it?
Bingo! Not to mention that it also played right into the philosophical mindset of that truly violence-prone growth group, the global Islamic community. In reality, I can't blame them one bit for their reaction to "W", but if we had not engaged the "idiot" button we'd be in far more righteous position now.

Even as regards Afghanistan: we've finally accomplished the one goal ("Git Bin Laden!") we set out tov do {We coulda done it with just one drone hit when he least expected it and was walking downtown with his wife to shop, but hey: who's thinking logically here, right? The Industrial Mil complex had to have it's profit days after all...) But also, oh my, we've secured a few "extra" consequential casualties here and there, but who's counting, huh? Esp. Rumsfeldt, that high IQ but egomaniacal monster. say' where's he these days, I wonder? On the speech-making trail?

Making money off the deaths of innocent and naive American boys and girls? Sentenced to death by Rummy and Bush and those other yuttzs, all playing ar ames on their hyper-expensive war-room computers (wonder if they are using Macs yet. you know, for even better realism?)

BTW, Rumsfeldt actually admitted that they had no post Shock & Awe plan in place whatsoever, that they were just there to "demo" America's force projection abilities.

Well, no duh! After all, no-one on this planet can, for now, take us on and hope to win in a true fist-fight, but what's the point after that? What is this for the benefit of? The old-guard Chinese or Russian military?

"You'd better not be lurking around our West Coast in your old Rooskie subs, boys, or... "we'll just Have to come out an GIT CHA!"

What a bunch of nitwits! Trouble is, a lot of them are also died-in-the-wool Christians, and truly think that their wooden God is actually on THEIR side. The Same God. Boy, is He ever confused, huh? That's also what the NAZIs believed. Hmmm... (Oddly, so do the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and most any Muslim you care to ask believes!)
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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Absolutely and utterly predictable. Atheism is by and large the province of the uber leftie world. You know, in addition to hating G-d and Christians, atheists also pretty much loathe the US - especially its wealth and power. Gosh, aint we awful people, us believers in G-d, capitalism, less government and fewer entitlement programs. Plus we are so much dumber than the humbler (not at all) and tolerant (only if you agree with their position) liberal elitist whack jobs. That's sarcasm folks.

Hate to tell you but religion is not going anywhere. Not in your lifetime. Even Obama has the sense to claim a religion. Not sure what he really is though.

For others here, it's all about the gay agenda. At some point they will push it too far, and then the backlash will begin, in earnest. That will be fun to watch, whether a Christian or not. Lol
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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Absolutely and utterly predictable. Atheism is by and large the province of the uber leftie world. You know, in addition to hating G-d and Christians, atheists also pretty much loathe the US - especially its wealth and power. Gosh, aint we awful people, us believers in G-d, capitalism, less government and fewer entitlement programs. Plus we are so much dumber than the humbler (not at all) and tolerant (only if you agree with their position) liberal elitist whack jobs. That's sarcasm folks.

Hate to tell you but religion is not going anywhere. Not in your lifetime. Even Obama has the sense to claim a religion. Not sure what he really is though.

For others here, it's all about the gay agenda. At some point they will push it too far, and then the backlash will begin, in earnest. That will be fun to watch, whether a Christian or not. Lol

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Old 08-24-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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My adblock is pretty strict and destroys those Google links. For the article is here if someone is also having a problem.
http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/up...sm-25-7-12.pdf
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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Absolutely and utterly predictable. Atheism is by and large the province of the uber leftie world. You know, in addition to hating G-d and Christians, atheists also pretty much loathe the US - especially its wealth and power. Gosh, aint we awful people, us believers in G-d, capitalism, less government and fewer entitlement programs. Plus we are so much dumber than the humbler (not at all) and tolerant (only if you agree with their position) liberal elitist whack jobs. That's sarcasm folks.

Hate to tell you but religion is not going anywhere. Not in your lifetime. Even Obama has the sense to claim a religion. Not sure what he really is though.

For others here, it's all about the gay agenda. At some point they will push it too far, and then the backlash will begin, in earnest. That will be fun to watch, whether a Christian or not. Lol
In fact it was your post which was pretty predictable, with its anti everything as voting for the wrong party and supporting all the stuff the religious right thinks the Bible tells them should be wiped out.

Not in our lifetimes, perhaps, but I am more sanguine than I have been since I started preaching the good news about the irreligious world tomorrow that we are going see some serious results in our lifetimes and, as to backlash, like divine right of kings and the Inquisition, once it is gone, nobody will think of getting it back, even if they secretly wanted it.

The individual God - inspired fighter against uber leftie liberal unChristian society will find themselves powerless against the increasing social tide. America's more humanist and less religion - dependent politics would then only need to be sure not to send its youngsters off to secluded islands for camping trips.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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In fact it was your post which was pretty predictable, with its anti everything as voting for the wrong party and supporting all the stuff the religious right thinks the Bible tells them should be wiped out.

Not in our lifetimes, perhaps, but I am more sanguine than I have been since I started preaching the good news about the irreligious world tomorrow that we are going see some serious results in our lifetimes and, as to backlash, like divine right of kings and the Inquisition, once it is gone, nobody will think of getting it back, even if they secretly wanted it.

The individual God - inspired fighter against uber leftie liberal unChristian society will find themselves powerless against the increasing social tide. America's more humanist and less religion - dependent politics would then only need to be sure not to send its youngsters off to secluded islands for camping trips.
Europe has embraced secular multiculturalism and you see where that's gotten it, right? Slowly sliding down the drain as Islamists seek dominance through nonassimilation, high birth rates and surging immigration. Pretty soon they will be flocking to America to escape sharia law and wondering what happened to their bygone culture.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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Let's hope it dies before some religious loon in power (George Bush tried) initiates the tipping point event that will end civilization if not all life.

Thankfully George (Dumbya) Bush was too stupid and incompetent to start more than 2 wars, had he been more capable he would have attacked Iran, Syria and Libya also.

Remember, he said that the voices in his head told him to, and he thinks the voices he heard was "god". Reasonable people know it wasn't a god, but that doesn't matter when his delusion turned Iraqi babies into stains on the walls of what had been their homes, does it?
Yes, Ash Nat...reading your post sure does help confirm the "research" the OP noted that indicated religion and religious influence is slippin'!

Here, try this: In The Land Of Mao, A Rising Tide Of Christianity Among Chinese : NPR
With the population of that country, any losses in other places will be offset many times over.

Religion was, is, and will probably always be, the most prolific and influential elective concept known to man. Get hip to that, cuz that's THE FACTS OF REALITY.
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