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I understand and agree with what you're saying, I just wanted to throw out some useless factoid, that most people don't realize that the 6 finger and probably 6 toe gene is dominate and all of us 5 finger 5 toed people are carrying the recessive genes.
No, I understood that. I wasn't wanting to go that deeply into things. I just wanted to throw any random mutation out there with any dire survival scenario. I could have people with one blue eye and one brown eye and said the same thing.
OK, But there are those that think that Survival of the Fittest is also a facet of evolution. Those women whose hip structure was the best suited for child bearing would survive childbirth and have more children than those that were narrow hipped and didn't make it. Her type of skeleton would have been inherited along with blood type, eye color, etc.
OK, But there are those that think that Survival of the Fittest is also a facet of evolution. Those women whose hip structure was the best suited for child bearing would survive childbirth and have more children than those that were narrow hipped and didn't make it. Her type of skeleton would have been inherited along with blood type, eye color, etc.
You're missing the point. The point is that it's not necessarily the woman with the widest hips as the sole factor. Just because a woman who has wide hips is able to give birth to say 5 or 6 children does not mean that a woman with smaller hips will not procreate. The gene for narrow or wide hips is still prevelant because both can still procreate. This also does not affect the survival of the human being. It's not necessarily about who can make the MOST offspring it's who can make offspring that are best suited to their environment to also bring forth offspring and those offspring bring forth offspring and so on and so forth. However, if ONLY women with wide hips were able to bear children, it's not hard to imagine that further offspring would ONLY occur from women with wide hips. If for some odd reason this were true starting tomorrow, wouldn't there be women with narrow hips still born? Sure, for now. But what happens when they can no longer procreate? Wouldn't it only be safe to say that over time only women with wide hips would eventually be born? After all, if the "narrow hip" gene were not being passed down from the female, statistically, only the "wide hip" gene would pass down to offspring, no?
GSTROOP. Nope, I should have been more graphic. The narrow hipped woman is often unable to give birth normally. In the days before c-sections, she quite often died. Usually the baby died too. But not always. Therefore, she seldom had many children that carried her genentic bone structure. Childbirth can literally tear a woman up. The most sucessful tribes were the ones where the women were built for childbearing. It's thought that one reason that it used to be the women with the well shaped hips were considered the sexiest. It allowed the man to sire big families.
Remember that in evolution, we are talking about millions of years, not just a few generations. Who is it that can say that if surgery hadn't been developed that the narrow pelvis would have survived for more than another million years? Keep in mind that delivery in a hospital with modern equipment is a fairly recent thing. Women still die in childbirth. It sometimes comes from loss of blood from a long and extensive labor. Women can and do, refuse c-sections.
And just for the gruesome minds, old medical equipment catalogues would have ads for tools used to cut the babies up so that they could be removed from the mother. There were specially designed saws that could be hooked in the arm socket, and decapitating saws for the head. There were also devices that could be used to cut into the skull so that the head could be crushed for easy removal. Not nice to think about, but just one of those things that the medical world devised to overcome Mother Nature's choices of survival.
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