horus the god used to creat jesus

[ByeByeGod]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

The prophecies of the Bible were spoken of by early Christians even in the 1500s. And based on their understanding of the Bible. They stated that before we would see the return of Jesus Christ, we would first see the return of the Jews from a worldwide exile. They stated not only would they return to the land of Israel, they would also retake Jerusalem. And their return would anger many nations around the world. Their statements were based on the prophecies of the Bible, and were made hundreds of years before Israel became a nation once again. And it obvious that many nations today have a great amount of anger towards Israel.

So tell me, were those statements made by these early Christian, (TRUE) or (FALSE)?

Are the jews only here to be hated?

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

The Bible is not inconsistant, it is your lack of understanding that makes it seem that way. Jesus was clearly born in Bethleham, he lived in Nazateth. I was born in Evergreen Park Il. Yet I lived in Chicago. Nothing inconsistant about that. The authentication for the Bible is found in it's accurately fulfilled prophecies, and you can't blame the church for their fulfillment today.

And none of the religious Text past or present outside of the Bible have accurate prophecies. So to suggest that the Bible had to copy it writings from some other religious beliefs, is ridiculous.

Oh, so the bible is supposed to be valid because some soothsayer wrote it? That proves the authenticity?

It is a book of myth, picking and choosing among concepts circulating. Jesus may not have existed at all.

How can a person walk through this precious life he is given and base it on some writings of a nebulous nature of cloudy authorship about a character that may be fictional who lived years in the past?

Your Jesus had some great things to say, but most Christians do not practice them. How can people call themselves Christian and not open their doors to the poor and give the shirts off their backs to the needy and take in all the orphaned children that they can? The only people whose lives I can identify as Christian are Jimmy Carter and Mother Theresa - and Theresa doubted God's existence. I do not know what goes on in the mind of President Carter.

Christ, as the bible depicts the character, was a vagabond philosopher, talking to groups of people where he found them, akin to the guy on the soapbox in the park. He did not work for a living, but relied on friends to give him food and a place to sleep. Where would we all be if we lived that way? Socialist Hippies, perhaps?

The vast majority of Christians just don that label because their family did. The way a Buddhist might because he was born in a country that held those beliefs.

Funny how some less religious countries take better care of their population than this, the 'great Christian nation'.

[Dusty Rhodes]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

the Vatican library, as they allow NO one to browse their documents.

Not entirely true. But.... there are not a whole lot of people capable of transcribing aramaic, one of the many different and dead languages used in the old documents. If one can prove proficiency in these languages and show genuine scholastic intent, permission is often granted.

[Dusty Rhodes]

Originally Posted by ByeByeGod

Are the jews only here to be hated?

Of course not!!! their dietary laws are in place to maintain the welfare of porsine critters, they have saved quite a few from the slaughter houses.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Dusty Rhodes

Not entirely true. But.... there are not a whole lot of people capable of transcribing aramaic, one of the many different and dead languages used in the old documents. If one can prove proficiency in these languages and show genuine scholastic intent, permission is often granted.

True.
Not even members of the church can go there and browse around.
People/scholars have to go through all sorts of red tape to see anything, and then they must ask for a manuscript by name - while we don't even know what exists there. If the proper permissions are granted the document/s is produced and ONLY that document and the person is watched while he peruses it.
This information should belong to humanity, but the Vatican feels no responsibility or obligation to share it with us. This might lead one to believe that they are fearful of what may be found out.
It is the Catholic church that compiled the bible from those documents and I suspect the entire religion is built on a sham, considering how much of Christian tradition is really based on traditions of other early religions.
There is never a need to cover up or lie if you are based in truth.