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Old 09-07-2012, 01:04 PM
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The blanket dismissal of the existence of God seems to be predicated entirely upon an apparent lack of evidence of any conscious Godly physical intervention on earth. Any and all other evidence or support for God's existence is dismissed out of hand using a presumed absence of this feature. The irony is that we do not consider the existence and products of our own consciousness as a venue for finding evidence of this intervention . . . with the ubiquitous phrase of dismissal being "it is all in your mind." This is curious since our consciousness is the most ubiquitous aspect of our reality and is entirely responsible for our ability to create and contemplate such issues and know ANYTHING about our reality. IOW . . . our consciousness is THE most significant aspect of reality by far as regards our human experiences.

This carnal obsession with our physical (material) reality is both understandable and unavoidable. We define our reality in terms of this apparent (but interpreted) materiality we are immersed within. The terms "God, consciousness, Spirit and Spiritual" are those associated with the non-physical aspects of our reality and experiences . . . hence they are inexplicably widely dismissed by those entirely focused on the physical or material. This dichotomy of human experience into valid (physical) and not valid (spiritual) based on this distinction created entirely within the spiritual (consciousness) aspect of our reality is bogus and unjustified . . . given that our experiences of it are entirely contingent on the spiritual (consciousness) aspect. It is further made incomprehensible by the FACT that 95+% of our reality has been found (by science) to be comprised of things (dark energy and dark matter) that are NOT directly physically measurable (only their effects can be observed).

Perhaps the single most widely used and unjustified phrase by non-theists is "there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever provided for a God." This is ironic because our human conscious experiences (recorded or not) have been dominated by concepts of God throughout human history. At the very least, this would SUGGEST the venue for finding evidence of intervention by God in the spiritual (consciousness) aspect of our reality. True "scientific" objectivity (a mythical abstraction it would seem) would at least acknowledge this . . . but it is routinely dismissed out of hand . . . again as "all in our minds." Curious and bigoted thinking, IMO. What are your thoughts?

For those who are interested (and to make it officially part of the topic of this thread Arequipa) . . . my rationale for this point of view is in my Synthesis:

My Synthesis1

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My Synthesis5

Old 09-07-2012, 01:42 PM
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Good grief this again? How many times have you posted your "synthesis" in the past two years?
You may call it evidence for god, but I call it merely your opinion...Everybody has those.
Old 09-07-2012, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
Good grief this again? How many times have you posted your "synthesis" in the past two years?
You may call it evidence for god, but I call it merely your opinion...Everybody has those.
The Synthesis is ancillary to the post because it provides a comprehensive and detailed scientific and philosophical rationale in support of the thread topic. I am seeking educated, informed and substantive opinions and thoughts on the basic premise of the thread, sanspeur . . . not the ubiquitous whining and dismissal of it found in every other thread dominated by atheist condescension.
Old 09-07-2012, 02:07 PM
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My response to Mystic's Synthesis

Energy is Mass "accelerated" (frequency of vibration) to C^2

Been done already.
Old 09-07-2012, 02:17 PM
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