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Old 09-14-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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You answered your own question. Radical.

Embassies stormed, KFC torched as anger over anti-Islam film rages - World News

Certainly enough radicals to really start causing major concern.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Embassies stormed, KFC torched as anger over anti-Islam film rages - World News

Certainly enough radicals to really start causing major concern.
I'm not here to defend Islam. I was speaking as a Christian.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Default Religion is the antithesis of peace and freedom

The USE of religion as an EXCUSE to coerce or control others is the antithesis of peace and freedom. The extreme irony of asserting a belief in an Almighty God and then resorting to human enforcement and coercion of this God's wishes is simply mind-boggling. What kind of intellect could EVER credit such an inconsistent rationale? If such a God exists . . . certainly He can do His own enforcement. Why would He need us puny beings to do it for Him? It make NO SENSE whatsoever!!! The very act of trying to enforce God's Will on others using human enforcement renders God IMPOTENT.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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So we have radical christians making inflammatory anti muslim videos and muslims using those videos to incite violence and murder.

How are either of these religions peaceful, tolerant and loving again?

Religion is truly an evil the world needs to rid itself of.
Actually, it is no different than people that have resorted to unpeaceful actions for political purposes, economic purposes, ethnic purposes, regional purposes, even for the simple fact of having a favorite sports team.
The bottom line, radicals seem to exist in any area of life and of the world that will convince others to act against those that act or believe differently, mob mentality. With that in mind it is already bias on the OP part to make an all inclusive OP title about religion when the same premises apply to other groups. Take care.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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... the deafening silence from so-called "religious moderates" when these things happen basically enable the crazies to act even more crazy.
Quite so. it's amazing that the so-called peaceful Muslims or Christians when it's their turn, do not quickly step forward and censure these so-called minority radicals. Why not? I'm quite tired of the typical Islamic commentary about how it's such a peaceful religion, and yet culturally here in the US they all turn a blind eye to the mob-inciting radicals, or to any marches in the streets against US foreign policies, etc. Well, soon enough, given the lack of available funds to send overseas in the future, it will all change.

They will change their tune, even the Israelis, when the taxpayer-funded cash drawer runs dry! After all, we simply cannot fund up all the little tow-bit religiously origented theo-thugocracies in this rapidly disintegrating world!

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Do you think the real founder of the Christian state of mind imagined that they would have a castle in Rome full of gold and intrigue and worshiping a man who once belonged to the Nazi youth movement...Or were young boys had the life force removed though sodomy by crazed mystics wearing black robes?
Just a point to the current Pope being once a Nazi Youth member: That membership was not optional at one point towards the end of zhah vhar! I've known two older men who had that membership distinction. One was a highly distasteful, Jew-baiting and Jew-hating thug-head, and was v. proud of his "glorious past" (don't worry; he mysterously died in his indoor home pool up in Marin County, probably choking on his illegally gained (i.e: stolen...) gold...), and another one who was very despondent until his final death-bed days about the role he'd been forced to play in Nazi Germany.

Still, it is a bit odd about the Pope, though it is also true that the RC Church was indeed implicated in some turning of the eyes and heads when the "Jewish Problem" was being dealt out by the thugs in Germany.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Unruled Freedom equals Chaos....Now Religion is suppose to enter the body through the mind and heart...to control ones freedoms and liberties from becoing Chaotic and detrimental to self and others....without Religion and the practice of it...to the letter of the Law/commandments of God...there is no control...and hence they fall from grace, to kill and be killed, in their unholy sacrifices....
So I say it is not religion to blame...it is those who practice it wrongly, and have been empowered by its positional plateau, to mislead the people, or gain their support in Dollars..(Idol)....and that is their fault.....Put the blame where the blame should go....."Thou shall Not Kill or Murder"....a very important Commandment....So it is actually the opposers of this Law which are to blame....as they do the opposite of the law.

There is no freedom...no liberty....as these things are of the devil.....there is only tending and keeping the Garden...everything else is a path away from that state of bliss (Paradise) we could be making together for the greator good of all living things..., and as some would say slavery...No money required....And if you look at each group, and each nation or kingdom...they all employ the Money ideal ever since ever was, with war!!...wonder why?...Yes another broken commandment.....So what do you expect from people who are guided by wealth and greed?...and using a IDOL told not to?.....and breaking of other commandments ..?....surely Chaos!

So religion is suppose to control that, when all the commandments are practiced in full, by all for all....without breaking any...and doing service in the Garden sowing all seeds, with out misjudging them, or subjecting anything to a false value//IDOL...and using them laws and givens wisely.....Now that is something else being denied, and prohibited in some parts....wonder why?....Oh Yah..so holy Ground cannot be made by a sinless soul , for God to come.

Mathew 6:24 and Rev 17:17...must take place...and the opposers will not let anyone fulfill that, so they tied all hands to the IDOL and to the vote of bloodshed...war and murder...or they try to stop people , by way of Bent Laws (Prohibition of Plants)(Anti Garden, ANti God, anti Christ, and Anti Life)....To imprison the Children into a life of sin and evils for dollars........how bent chaos gets is up to us?...no it is now up to the voted in puppets of the same IDOLATRY and DEMOCRACY...or other State of Mind not DOING what God said to do...and holding that IDOL near and dear....causes most of the problems...which they will denie....but history is now proving...all states of civilization that used Money, have fallen, gone to wars, or have been taken by war...or mutated to something else with the same face...,,,they just cannot put it down and forget about it....and GIVE LIKE GOD....share LIKE GOD...Be Good Like God...tend and keep the garden, and multiply it out over the earth in peace health and happiness......Why can't humans do this simple act of progression?..Idol or engraven Imaged thing being used continually, falsely subjecting all living things to it ...for it...by it..Polluting it all for dollars now......Chaos, denial and opposers of God make profits for the wicked, in doing the opposite of God's will and word...(Infiltration of the houses of the holy by demonica)...and the human sacrifices continue..."Thankyou for your sacrifice" as they take the children off to war....any war...doesn't matter the reason, or the rhyme.....they even make up lies, and people believe in them lies and propoganda,...and go to war to kill people they never met, or know anything about....blind, deaf, dumb,.....Yep!...point the finger and say lies..to make false Judgements on to others,... another broken commandmet....see how easy it is to break these commandments with those who say they are religious...but do not do what God said to in his commandments....that has been the problem with them ever since ever was......but Christ came to show us a better way...."stand out of her sins My People, so you do not take part in her punishments".....So when you see these things, Know that Christ is watching, and is ready to dish out the rewards....even if they kill you, bless them.,,,to invert the evil..upon themselves....yep do Good always...and not much can stop them from stopping you from entering the kingdom now that you can see the opposite state of mind of God....sinless, if you follow Christ's message...and Rev 17:17 should guide you to what God said...leave all the other stuff out...makes it easier to follow....as what you see now being done in the world, is not of God at all...if you read the right Commands of God that is....and something is continually being used that the commandment of God exresses we do not use....so what do you think stems from that?...yep evil and sin.....Mathew was right, as was Jesus about the money making a den of evildoers and sinners....I'd say....holding the book in hand does not absolve anyone from sin and evil...it is putting those commandments, instructions, and deeds into action God said to do...freely! without sin..without evil...without falsejudgement...a totally different world order comes to mind....Peace.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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So Religion = Christianity and Islam?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Sirles- Did you really just say freedom is of the devil? Why live if there is no freedom? Life would be pointless. Religion only causes problems as far as I am concerned. It breeds hate and intolerance, even if the person doesn't realize it. Causes way too much death and destruction, and even causes so called "Christians" to be intolerant of anyone not of their religion. It's a joke. Its a business that takes in billions, but i guess you have to pay for those upgrades somehow! Why do you need big ornate churches anyway? Its ridiculous.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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It is rather amazing ...
  • a handful of people use religion to engage in despicable and inhumane activity inspired by their understanding of their religion and the zealous secularist concludes that religion is evil.
  • untold numbers of religious people engage in countless acts of life-sustaining charity/sadaqah/tzedakah inspired by their understanding of their religion and the zealous secularist concludes that religion is evil.
  • and societies that have deliberately purged religion from their culture and discourse demonstrate the ugliest forms of cruelty and oppression and the zealous secularist concludes that religion is evil.
Somebody's mantra is broken.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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So we have radical christians making inflammatory anti muslim videos and muslims using those videos to incite violence and murder.

How are either of these religions peaceful, tolerant and loving again?

Religion is truly an evil the world needs to rid itself of.
I've never watched a horde of angry Lutherans burn down an embassy. I'd suggest not lumping Christians in with the muslims.
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