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Old 10-16-2012, 07:33 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
That can surely be changed though.

If we can change man and woman to man and man, then we can surely change laws regarding incestuous marriage.

interesting to note that most SSM supporters will tacitly allow incest.

I wonder why?
I'm sure you have some valid scientific studies to support this claim, don't you? I have never known anybody who supported incest. Ridiculous.

 
Old 10-16-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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same old dross from the SSM brigade.
Yes, yes, and I'm sure Columbus heard the same ignorance trying to convince people like you the earth was round, not flat. It just takes time and persistence. One day we will all look back and laugh at the thought of destroying gays for their immoral behavior like they are witches spreading their satanic ways.

Looking back throughout history, people have made some judgement errors, education and time seems to iron those out. No worries.

Try a live and let live attitude.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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Most states already have laws against relatives marrying, at least regarding siblings and first cousins. Therefore, if SSM was legalized today, your statement would not be valid. Sister cannot marry brother now; sister cannot marry sister then.
In many states you can marry your first cousin, as long as they are of the opposite sex.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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....is an argument I hear all to often from the Christian right. I might ask how gay marriage would destroy marriage rather than strengthening it but I'm not going to. Instead, I will pose the question, isn't the institution of marriage already quite destroyed as it stands? What with the divorce rate at 50% of all marriages, teen pregnancy and unwed mothers at all time highs etc etc. More and more women aren't even waiting to find that mythical "Mr Wright" and instead opting for sperm banks and going it alone. Is there anything left of the concept of marriage worth defending or salvaging?
Yes. Marriage is between one man and one woman.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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....is an argument I hear all to often from the Christian right. I might ask how gay marriage would destroy marriage rather than strengthening it but I'm not going to. Instead, I will pose the question, isn't the institution of marriage already quite destroyed as it stands? What with the divorce rate at 50% of all marriages, teen pregnancy and unwed mothers at all time highs etc etc. More and more women aren't even waiting to find that mythical "Mr Wright" and instead opting for sperm banks and going it alone. Is there anything left of the concept of marriage worth defending or salvaging?
Yes. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, a Biblical union.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Yes. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, a Biblical union.
So, what does that make a marriage performed by a judge in his chambers? Is that still a Biblical union?
 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Yes. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, a Biblical union.
No it is NOT a biblical union. Marriage is a legal contract.

For very specific reasons, there were no mentions of god or any of that BS in our vows. Nor did my wife vow two say she "obey", nor would I even want to marry a woman that thinks so little of herself to say such a stupid thing.

There is no reason two people willing to commit to each other should be prevented from doing so, based solely on the ignorance of YOUR religion, one which many rightfully dismiss as the ancient ignorance that it is.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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Yes. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, a Biblical union.
Yeah like Jacob, David, and Solomon... Oops...

Assuming the Bible is accurate, God tacitly endorsed and explicitly provided for polygamous marriage. Unless you are arguing that God's morality in not consistent or absolute, it stands to reason that it is no more immoral now than when it was codified into the law given by God.

If the definition of marriage can change from one man and 300 women to one man and one woman, what is the big deal with two women?

-NoCapo
 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Yes. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, a Biblical union.
Funny thing, I read a marriage license and certificate, there was no mention of your bible.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Yes. Marriage is between one man and one woman.
In your world maybe, but your opinion does not dictate reality. In numerous places around the world and throughout history, that is not the meaning of marriage, no matter how much you want to pretend they aren't real marriages.
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