Where did this idea come from? American the promsed land?

[reed067]

Originally Posted by Checkered24

I know a number of evangelical Christians, and although some like to think Obama is the anti Christ based on their political views, he doesn't really fit the biblical anti-Christ.

This is also the first I have heard to suggest that the US has a special covenant with God. There is only one Israel, and (biblically) it is not the United States. Now, most evangelicals I know believe, based on Revelations, that the US must lose it's prominance and powerful position in the world before the Anti-Christ will rise to prominence, or before we truly reach the end times.

Well haven't you heard heard Obama is a Muslum terrorist & he is out to destory this country. I guess that's close enough for the Christians like my mom. From what I've heard from her & her friends & what I understand because this nation was built on Christian vaules we're special just like Isreal. Not sure how they figure that as you stated it's not bibically. I'm guessing these southren preacher are making this up as they go along. Same with these TV preachers they get togther & agree while making money hand over fist off people. I guess that's thier real motive.

[Randomstudent]

Originally Posted by reed067

So as some of you know my mom is a evangelical Christian. She believes that Obama is the anti-Christ & that this nation is based on Judea-Christian values. She tends to believe that because this nation is built on those ideas that this nation is somehow that we're like Israel. We're chosen & under his protection. Do any other Christians feel this way? Not picking here but I'd like to understand exactly how this works.

I never understood it either. Especially considering that some of the most successful countries and civilizations were never really Christian. I think it is questionable to assume that God somehow favors particular countries for their values and or religiousity.

[reed067]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

I never understood it either. Especially considering that some of the most successful countries and civilizations were never really Christian. I think it is questionable to assume that God somehow favors particular countries for their values and or religiousity.

Yeah but you can't tell these Southren baptist that..

[Randomstudent]

Originally Posted by reed067

Yeah but you can't tell these Southren baptist that..

Yeah discussing religion IRL is kind of pointless.

[hiker45]

Originally Posted by Vizio

But was every tribe that was here in 1492 occupying the same exact land 2000 years ago? Did the tribes fight against each other at all? Did they take land from each other?

Of course, the Native American tribes fought each other for land and the tribal boundaries would change as time went on.

For example, the Athabascan people from what is now Canada came south around 1400 AD and pushed the Ancestral Puebloans (the ancestors of the Hopi, Zuni, Acoma, and Pima tribes) off their land. The Athabascans then split into the Navajos and Apaches.

Besides, my Pilgrim anecstors were not really illegal immigrants because they were welcomed by the Native Americans, who had been decimated by European diseases they had picked from Portugese fishermen.

On the other hand, my English ancestors at Jamestown were not welcomed by the Native Americans, so I think it is fair to call them illegal immigrants. We were there a few months ago, and it was a very moving experience for me, just like it was for my wife when she visited Ellis Island.