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Old 12-19-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Biblically...yes. But 2 women can't conceive.
Neither can one woman and a comic book character


Merry Christmas

 
Old 12-19-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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Neither can one woman and a comic book character


Merry Christmas
God can make her conceive, though.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: under a rock
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God can make her conceive, though.
Mental gymnastics can make anything possible. The land of imagination is filled with endless examples of it! Happy Holidays
 
Old 12-19-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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God can make her conceive, though.
Where have I heard that one before?

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Biblically speaking, sin is passed down from the father.
That statement is just plain WRONG. "Biblically speaking". The fall of Man from Grace is inherited by all the sons and Daughters of Adam and Eve. The Phrase "The fall of Man" means mankind, all of mankind.

If what you claim to be the biblical truth of Adam being the representitive of men only then it follows that the new Adam, Jesus Christ would also be the representitive of men alone.

Mary was a sinner just the same as every single Human being ever born in a fallen world. The reason that Jesus did not inherit this sinful nature has nothing at all to do with who His mother was. It's solely because of the reason, that what was concieved in the womb of Mary was OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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That statement is just plain WRONG. "Biblically speaking". The fall of Man from Grace is inherited by all the sons and Daughters of Adam and Eve. The Phrase "The fall of Man" means mankind, all of mankind.
No argument with the fact that all men are sinful. Paul stated in Romans that sin entered the world through Adam. All descendants of Adam have the sin as it is passed down to them. Women still are born in sin, but they are not said to pass on that sin.
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If what you claim to be the biblical truth of Adam being the representitive of men only then it follows that the new Adam, Jesus Christ would also be the representitive of men alone.
Not what I said. You need to study the issue of Federal Headship. What does it mean when the Bible says, "the man is head of the woman?" | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

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Mary was a sinner just the same as every single Human being ever born in a fallen world.
The reason that Jesus did not inherit this sinful nature has nothing at all to do with who His mother was. It's solely because of the reason, that what was concieved in the womb of Mary was OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
I get that. But he had no earthly father. His Heavenly Father (God) is sinless...so he was conceived sinless.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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Mental gymnastics can make anything possible. The land of imagination is filled with endless examples of it! Happy Holidays
So that's how you guys continue to disbelieve!!!!! Mental gymnastics!! Anything is possible, even atheism!
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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So that's how you guys continue to disbelieve!!!!! Mental gymnastics!! Anything is possible, even atheism!
Uh huh

why is your god-of-a-virgin any better than any of the rest of them?

mandatory: I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours - Stephen F Roberts
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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It's almost as if religion makes no sense whatsoever
Things that man make up and are involved in...rarely do. Just saying...
 
Old 12-19-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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So that's how you guys continue to disbelieve!!!!! Mental gymnastics!! Anything is possible, even atheism!
Belief in God is easy and logical. Belief in the absurd and illogical "precepts and doctrines of men" that have been attached to belief in God is where the stumbling blocks are. The religions in their irrational insistence on retaining the ancient ignorance of our barbaric and superstitious ancestors in the name of Faith have corrupted Christ's Gospel beyond recognition.
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