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Old 12-22-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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Right after you provide me some original documents of Mithra dated around 3000 BC
You're in WAY over your pay-grade.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Asheville, Nc
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Right after you provide me some original documents of Mithra dated around 3000 BC
And therein lies the problem you, me nor can anyone PROVE his/her faith or lack of it you can say what you want but in the end it all comes down to faith.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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And therein lies the problem you, me nor can anyone PROVE his/her faith or lack of it you can say what you want but in the end it all comes down to faith.
I'm convinced the Bible is what it claims to be. Do you have anything to say that it isn't?
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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I'm convinced the Bible is what it claims to be. Do you have anything to say that it isn't?

Thats fine that you believe that and like I said thats why its called faith because neither one of can prove or disprove our faiths.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:37 PM
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Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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The very fact that Jesus was made into a demi-god by Paul and his Gentile Hellenistic acolytes is enough to prove that Christianity is a pagan-based religion. Comparison to other pagan deities is not necessary. The "Jewish Christians" of the time did not see Jesus as a god of any kind as "God is One". That is an indisputable fact (even though the Fundamentalist/Evangelicals will never believe it).
A causal reading of the NT revels that the divinty of Jesus was noted by John. Not Paul. If you have any interest read the Book of John. Chapter one pretty well settles the issue.

Your "fact" doesn't exist. It is the stuff of conjecture, not based biblical writting. Remember: just because it is on the internet does not make it true.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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the NT was not written by eyewitnesses and is filled with contradictions. they where written by unknown authors and copied multiple times before names like John were attached to them
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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A causal reading of the NT revels that the divinty of Jesus was noted by John. Not Paul. If you have any interest read the Book of John. Chapter one pretty well settles the issue.

Your "fact" doesn't exist. It is the stuff of conjecture, not based biblical writting. Remember: just because it is on the internet does not make it true.
Did you just say that biblical writing is not infused with conjecture? Now that is comedy, my friends
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:58 PM
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the NT was not written by eyewitnesses and is filled with contradictions. they where written by unknown authors and copied multiple times before names like John were attached to them
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Did you just say that biblical writing is not infused with conjecture? Now that is comedy, my friends
Both of you guys/gals are entitled to your opinion. I can respect that.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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A causal reading of the NT revels that the divinty of Jesus was noted by John. Not Paul. If you have any interest read the Book of John. Chapter one pretty well settles the issue.

Your "fact" doesn't exist. It is the stuff of conjecture, not based biblical writting. Remember: just because it is on the internet does not make it true.
Just because its in the Bible also does not make it true. The history of the book of John is shadowy at best. If you wish to believe that it's all true, fine. Do so...have fun. The bible is naught but a book of oral stories written down by unknown authors and modified greatly over the last 1900 years or so. If the stories in the bible are 100% fact, then so are the stories told by the elders of my tribe. I prefer to believe them over yours.

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Old 12-22-2012, 11:54 PM
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Just because its in the Bible also does not make it true. The history of the book of John is shadowy at best. If you wish to believe that it's all true, fine. Do so...have fun. The bible is naught but a book of oral stories written down by unknown authors and modified greatly over the last 1900 years or so. If the stories in the bible are 100% fact, then so are the stories told by the elders of my tribe. I prefer to believe them over yours.
You have said it. Go with what you think is right.
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