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Old 02-19-2013, 10:42 PM
 
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Maybe you just pick up a few things from the Bible online or something because clearly you got things wrong about what it says. For starters show me verses where it says the Earth is flat. Here is a verse that talks about the shape of the earth:

Isaiah 40:22 - It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.


The word translated “circle” here is the Hebrew word chuwg which is also translated “circuit,” or “compass” (depending on the context). It indicates something spherical, rounded, or arched, not something that is flat or square.


The book of Isaiah was written sometime between 740 and 680 BC. This is at least 300 years before Aristotle suggested that the earth might be a sphere in this book On the Heavens.


You may be aware of the conflict between Galileo and the Roman Catholic Pope, Paul V. After publishing A Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, Galileo was summoned to Rome, where he was forced to renounce his findings. (At that time, “theologians” of the Roman Catholic Church maintained that the Earth was the center of the universe, and to assert otherwise was deemed heretical.)


Yet nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Earth is flat or the center of the universe.



God is just, misunderstanding that will lead to misleading ideas about who He is.
I don't think they care to read it your way. Because first of all, compasses aren't spherical, and neither are "circuits". Second, a Tent has a flat ground, and so does a "Dome". Third, Even the Norse believed the Earth was a dome. It's obvious to everyone except ancient poets...
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[and the non-ancient gentile betrayer of their pagan ancestors (who were betrayers of their own, Remember the Titans?)]
...that the Moon and Sun and Jupiter are spheres and so is the Earth.

The word chuwg here is special pleading and translation bias. I think this is what a Muslim has to say about Grasshoppers in tents The Bible says: The Earth is flat!

Please, the four corners of the Earth and those iron age saintly geniuses didn't realize the Earth was a Sphere?!? What a revealing faceless God. faceless for shame, that would be. The Abrahamic god is a shameful god that should seek Enlightenment. His beasts of burden wallow in the shame that spews from his faceless scribes.

 
Old 02-19-2013, 11:02 PM
 
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The Bible mentions the corners of the earth, although this does not suggest that its saying its flat. Take a circle and find the four points farthest away from each other and there you have it. Although in our language today that might get mistranslated.
Again a sphere has no ends.

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What that there were miracles? Science can't explain that and I can't explain things like that, God does things that we can't understand.
Yup...That is the answer I always got from the clergy anytime I asked a tough question..."God works in mysterious ways"...Never once did I get a proper answer.


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I have a few questions about the theory of evolution if you wouldn't mind. Do you believe Lucy is a common ancestor between man and ape?
First of all humans are one of five species of ape....The others are Gorillas, Chimpanzees, Bonobos , and Orangutans.... No, the common ancestor between other primates and humans existed long before Lucy.

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Do you know that the leg fossil of Lucy was crushed, thus it is an assumption of what the leg’s length was (making the arm/leg length ratio is an assumption). As the length was used to determine it was not fully human or not fully ape.
That is probably correct as Lucy was a good example of the evolutionary progress that eventually resulted in what we are today

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There is tremendous variety within human beings in arm/leg length ratio, and variety within ape’s arm/length ratio. The arm/leg length ratio that was chosen for Lucy falls within normal ape sizes.

The fossils that were brought together for Lucy were scattered over several miles. How do they know they all belonged to the same animal? Still, an analysis by anatomists Jack Stern and Randall Susman repeatedly define the bones of Lucy as "ape-like.
See above.

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And since apes can walk upright today I don't see how finding a skeleton of an ape that walked is any indication of anything.
That is because you do not understand skeletal anatomy...One way Lucy was discovered to be an upright walking ancestor was by looking at her half-pelvis and half-femur. Even though the pelvis was smashed down by other mammals overtime once the discovery that it was pressed down and then reconstructed it was one more proof that Lucy was our ancestor. The confusion about the pelvis was that apes have a more flat versus human-beings and their ancestors who walked upright have a more curved pelvis. Another difference is the vertebral column, among modern primates the spine is smaller than the limbs, allowing for a longer tread.

Read more: The museum of man

By the way are you going to try to address the other biblical absurdities I pointed out a couple of posts ago?
 
Old 02-19-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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I don't think they care to read it your way. Because first of all, compasses aren't spherical, and neither are "circuits". Second, a Tent has a flat ground, and so does a "Dome". Third, Even the Norse believed the Earth was a dome. It's obvious to everyone except ancient poets...
Spoiler
[and the non-ancient gentile betrayer of their pagan ancestors (who were betrayers of their own, Remember the Titans?)]
...that the Moon and Sun and Jupiter are spheres and so is the Earth.

The word chuwg here is special pleading and translation bias. I think this is what a Muslim has to say about Grasshoppers in tents The Bible says: The Earth is flat!

Please, the four corners of the Earth and those iron age saintly geniuses didn't realize the Earth was a Sphere?!? What a revealing faceless God. faceless for shame, that would be. The Abrahamic god is a shameful god that should seek Enlightenment. His beasts of burden wallow in the shame that spews from his faceless scribes.


clearly your reading into things which are not there, the Bible clearly said the circle of the earth and also mentions how the earth hangs on nothing in Job 26:7

genetic codes disprove evolution because each species is made according to its kind as the Bible says, stressing the reproductive integrity of each kind of animal and plant
 
Old 02-19-2013, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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clearly your reading into things which are not there, the Bible clearly said the circle of the earth and also mentions how the earth hangs on nothing in Job 26:7

genetic codes disprove evolution because each species is made according to its kind as the Bible says, stressing the reproductive integrity of each kind of animal and plant
You poor lost soul....The genetic codes are evidence for exactly the opposite... That all species of plants and animals evolved over billions of years.
 
Old 02-19-2013, 11:16 PM
 
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clearly your reading into things which are not there, the Bible clearly said the circle of the earth and also mentions how the earth hangs on nothing in Job 26:7

genetic codes disprove evolution because each species is made according to its kind as the Bible says, stressing the reproductive integrity of each kind of animal and plant
graffix, these tactics are shaming you and shaming your religion.

the bible has multiple authors and editors and editions... and of course it "hangs on nothing" as it sits on "pillars". Job 9:6

The Canaanites believed the earth just floated around, much like the moon, hung by some unseen force (the Highest god, El). The Jews are trying to differentiate themselves from the rest of the Canaanites and say they bested the Blessed Egyptian Superpower and where never Canaanites to begin with (hence Israel, AGAINST EL).

These tactics shame your god as much as your religion's made-up Middle Eastern mythology shames those who believe it.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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You poor lost soul....The genetic codes are evidence for exactly the opposite... That all species of plants and animals evolved over billions of years.
The Bible describes biogenesis (the development of living organisms from other living organisms) and the stability of each kind of living organism. Genesis 1:11;12 Gen 1:21,25


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the bible has multiple authors and editors and editions
And written over 1500 years on three continents, yet they all agree






here is a sight that talks a little about Lucy, and how its really not strong evidence to believe in evolution: here



Have a good night all
 
Old 02-19-2013, 11:56 PM
 
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A lying for Jesus site just doesn't do it for me...Why not try a credible site that publishes legitimate peer reviewed information. This lie glares out at me...
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The remarkable fact is that all the physical evidence we have for human evolution can still be placed with room to spare inside a single coffin.“
Early human fossils have been found of more than 6,000 individuals. With the rapid pace of new discoveries every year, this impressive sample means that even though some early human species are only represented by one or a few fossils, others are represented by thousands of fossils....
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils
 
Old 02-20-2013, 12:12 AM
 
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A circle is a flat two dimensional object...The term "ends of the earth" is used quite a bit in the Bible. When the Bible was written it wasn't a figure of speech... it was a fact.... A sphere has no ends..... Even as late as 1492, people were convinced that Columbus was going to fall off of the earth.

Bolded part is urban legend, ALL educated people knew for a long time the earth was round, but they thought it was much smaller than it turned out to be.
 
Old 02-20-2013, 12:15 AM
 
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The Bible describes biogenesis (the development of living organisms from other living organisms) and the stability of each kind of living organism. Genesis 1:11;12 Gen 1:21,25




And written over 1500 years on three continents, yet they all agree






here is a sight that talks a little about Lucy, and how its really not strong evidence to believe in evolution: here



Have a good night all
Maybe "Lucy" was "Eve".
 
Old 02-20-2013, 05:04 AM
 
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clearly your reading into things which are not there, the Bible clearly said the circle of the earth and also mentions how the earth hangs on nothing in Job 26:7

genetic codes disprove evolution because each species is made according to its kind as the Bible says, stressing the reproductive integrity of each kind of animal and plant
WOW!!! Even more evidence that we need to keep religion and this picture of Jesus out of our schools.
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