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Ya really didn't think that through now, didja?...There are always going to be those that set a good example and those that set a bad example...Those that are born to lead and those that are born to follow...Those that have the patience to lead and those that are too lazy to lead...Perhaps you should study up on the anointing process, because the self-anointing comment just sounds too ludicrous...
I wasn't differentiation the good from the bad based on individual differences, there are good and bad people everywhere. I was just trying to let you see a contradiction to the basic yet erroneous idea of "preacher" vs. "congregant" metaphor is still supremacist.
Here is another interpretation. First, assume the following about Jesus. Jesus was God, not the son of God. Jews are not responsible for the death of Jesus. Jesus was not crucified; a Roman soldier beat him to death, Jesus did not sacrifice to save humankind; he died because of he was in Satan's world.
Much of the disagreement between Jesus and his Jewish followers had to do with Jewish laws and their interpretation. Some of that discussion was about the necessity of Jewish sacrifices as atonement for sins. After Jesus (God) was murdered, God abandoned sacrifices in the Jewish temple. The Lord never really approved of animal sacrifices; He allowed them because Jews wanted to adopt the pagan practice.
So why did the Lord frown upon passing or giving one's child to the deity Moloch as it says in the Chumash/Pentateuch
Perhaps so - if one can trust them. I recall trying to trace the priest named in connection with one of these events and there is no High priest of that name at the time. Even if they were true, these are connected with the the imminent destruction of the temple. How would that be related to Jesus - whom I suppose you have in mind as the Messiah?
The Talmud confirms nothing. The Talmud is a long list of commentaries by multiple people who attempt to explain and expand the meanings of what is written in the Torah. There are multiple locations where these commentators conflict with each other. There are actually two Talmuds and depending on the branch one belongs to, they pick which commentary fits within their sects. What may be customary (halacha or minhag) in one branch may not be in another.
The Talmud confirms nothing. The Talmud is a long list of commentaries by multiple people who attempt to explain and expand the meanings of what is written in the Torah. There are multiple locations where these commentators conflict with each other. There are actually two Talmuds and depending on the branch one belongs to, they pick which commentary fits within their sects. What may be customary (halacha or minhag) in one branch may not be in another.
Thanks for the explanation. I did know that the Talmud (s) are commentaries on the Torah. It is just a question of someone involved in the Gospels -are-true debate, when Talmud stories are presented as extra -Biblical confirmation of the Gospel story, they have to be considered as such, just as when the Eden, Ark and exodus accounts are claimed as historical fact.
Thanks for the explanation. I did know that the Talmud (s) are commentaries on the Torah. It is just a question of someone involved in the Gospels -are-true debate, when Talmud stories are presented as extra -Biblical confirmation of the Gospel story, they have to be considered as such, just as when the Eden, Ark and exodus accounts are claimed as historical fact.
The Talmud(s) is called the Oral Torah as around 10% of Jews consider it an extension of the Torah. Most Jews follow the customs that grew out of the Talmud rather than what was written in the Torah. The gospels are second hand embellished stories that conflict with each other. Many Christians see is as fact, but by their actions it is not seen as truth. As to the Eden and Ark there were all passed down stories to a generation that no science at the time to counter it. Exodus possibly did happen in some way. People who are on the losing side of a situation usually spin it as never happened or turn themselves into victims in relation to it.
I'm not in disagreement with any of that. No even the Exodus, which I suspect is a folk or historical memory of the expulsion of the Canaanite Hyksos.
I may have my doubts about some of these Talmud stories, but I don't have anything much to say about Rabbi Akiva's conversation with a pair of frightened temple doors.
It is purely where the Christian apologists are using these predictions of the destruction of the temple and trying to link them with the execution of Jesus and thus supernatural proof of..whatever they want to claim about him.
Thus the stories require a bit of examination and if some doubt is raised about their veracity, like Rabbi Simeon seeming to live both in the time of Alexander the Great and Pontius the Pilate, don't take it personally.
The Talmud confirms nothing. The Talmud is a long list of commentaries
They can be more than commentaries, when a description of historical events take place.
Did you even look at any of the links I've posted here ? Judaism encountered a crisis
of untold proportions after "you know who" was crucified. The events recorded describe
precisely what would happen if the Messiah nullified the presence of G-D in the Temple
and the rendering of sacrifices. This is important information for those interested in
the truth.
Perhaps you aren't aware either that when Julian the Apostate tried to rebuild the
Temple, he was stopped by Divine power and the workmen were killed in an act of G-D.
Also perhaps you are not aware that the so-called "wailing wall" is actually a portion
of Fort Antonia, not the Western Wall.
To this day, "Jews" secretly respect the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and they fear violating
God's revealed truth. They fear Divine vindication and judgement upon them.
Do you support the building of a Third Temple and the resumption of animal sacrifices ?
The Hand of G-d is not to be mocked.
To this day, "Jews" secretly respect the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and they fear violating
God's revealed truth. They fear Divine vindication and judgement upon them.
What? What color is the sky in your world?
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