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I think there are gays who are legitimately in love with each other; they are an exception in my view, not a majority.
How are they an exception? I work with 2 gay men who have been in monogamous relationships for longer than most heterosexual marriages.
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Homosexuality is in NO manner as natural as heterosexuality;
Yes, in fact it is, by the very definition of "natural".
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in example, explain to me WHY heterosexuality is natural, then I can't wait to see your comparison that makes homosexuality natural.
Both are natural expressions of animal sexuality. Heterosexuality is just more common. Doesn't mean homosexuality isn't natural or important. I already showed you evidence of species surviving because of an increase in homosexual couples.
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Humans abuse homosexuality just like they do all things; we abuse even our perversions.
Humans can be quite abusive. And yet, far far more heterosexuals abuse heterosexuality than gays abuse homosexuality. Yet you single out gays as being worse. Why? Absolutely everything lustful, perverted act you can think of is done in astronomically higher number by heterosexuals than by homosexuals.
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There must be limitations to things , guidelines must be set or humanity will abuse this attitude of " No guideline, no limitations zone", and things will really get out of hand.
And why are these limitations more applicable to gays than straights?
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It may not be all about sex IF THERE ARE GUIDELINES set in place, even in homosexual behavior there must be limitations, or it will germinate to the worse.
I'm no supporter of destructive behavior or promiscuity either. But that's not exclusive to any sexual orientation, and thus singling out gays as being less natural than straights is dishonest.
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Humanity is already homosexual, the line has long been crossed, it should now be accepted in society and dealt with fairly, its too late for anything else. But I will maintain my agreement with the biblical guidelines set long ago.
Humanity isn't homosexual, humanity encompasses several sexual orientations and have since humans first existed on this earth.
Your agreement with Biblical guidelines is based on a poor understanding of what those guidelines are.
If sexual orientation is determined by brain dominance as Olson contends, it’s important to note that the pathways connecting the two hemispheres of the brain and determining which side is dominant are mostly finalized before birth. As such, Olson reiterates conventional scientific wisdom that sexual orientation is predetermined and unchangeable.
That article doesn't prove anything. At best it suggests that brains in homosexuals are more prone to mental problems like depression. The evidence would be more convincing if the subjects brain scans showed such differences at birth not comparing scans after they have had life experiences.
Sex is usually a component of love. Physical intimacy is pretty freakin important for most humans, especially those who are in love. Without it, it leads to severe health problems in most people. Lonely people have a shorter life span than those in a relationship.
I agree with most of this, sex is not Love, it can be a component of love, and it can be a component of lust as well. Sex can be marketed , sold, traded, and forced; and love have absolutely have nothing to do with love. The dark side is very powerful in this world, and if given free rein, it will corrupt humanity intensely. Homosexuality, like all things, has it's dark side , and if this dark side is given its total freedom, given no limitations, then it will do EXACTLY what the dark side of heterosexuality has already done; ABUSE its freedoms. Its too late to stop homosexuality, way too late; its too late to regulate it; its too late to legalize it ; in my view, it no longer matters, we may as well let by gones be by gones; its just going to get worse.
Amazing isn't it. 20,000 children die every day from starvation. Countless millions are murdered or killed every year. But John and David getting married in Seattle Washington will lead to the end of the world.
It's not only amazing it's sad.
I would love to see the religious community redirect all that time and energy and money spent fighting marriage equality to fighting something that affects us all: childhood poverty. Kids being abused. Kids not getting a decent education.
Where's the outrage over kids in this country going to bed hungry? That is a concern to me. I could care less what two gay men I will never meet do in the privacy of their bedroom.
Sex is usually a component of love. Physical intimacy is pretty freakin important for most humans, especially those who are in love. Without it, it leads to severe health problems in most people. Lonely people have a shorter life span than those in a relationship.
Physical intimacy and love are nothing more than a chemical reactions in the brain, and serves no evolutionary purpose if you subscribe to the atheist world. Thankfully, I believe in a divine Creator who designed intimacy and sex as a beautiful way for a man and a woman to bond physical, emotionally, and spiritually.
That article doesn't prove anything. At best it suggests that brains in homosexuals are more prone to mental problems like depression. The evidence would be more convincing if the subjects brain scans showed such differences at birth not comparing scans after they have had life experiences.
Except the structures that are being studied are primarily fully developed before birth. They don't change from life experiences. The second article even stated that. Hemisphere dominance is not affected by an absent parent, or childhood experience.
Why do you expect anyone to listen to you when you keep coming up with any excuse to dismiss evidence? It's quite obvious you don't want evidence to exist for orientation being biological. It's much harder to condemn people for something they were born with, than for something you claim they control.
Physical intimacy and love are nothing more than a chemical reactions in the brain, and serves no evolutionary purpose if you subscribe to the atheist world.
Actually they do. Social/physical bonding is necessary in animal species.
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Thankfully, I believe in a divine Creator who designed intimacy and sex as a beautiful way for a man and a woman to bond physical, emotionally, and spiritually.
And I believe in a Creator who designed intimacy for all adult humans to bond with the person they love, regardless of their orientation.
Except the structures that are being studied are primarily fully developed before birth. They don't change from life experiences. The second article even stated that. Hemisphere dominance is not affected by an absent parent, or childhood experience.
Why do you expect anyone to listen to you when you keep coming up with any excuse to dismiss evidence? It's quite obvious you don't want evidence to exist for orientation being biological. It's much harder to condemn people for something they were born with, than for something you claim they control.
I can easily say the same thing about atheists. They come up with any excuse to reject any evidence that even remotely supports Christianity. It doesn't have any bearing on my position if gays really are born that way. If you can prove it, fine then, I'll accept it. We all are born flawed and sin creatures with tendancies towards certain sins.
I think there are gays who are legitimately in love with each other; they are an exception in my view, not a majority. Homosexuality is in NO manner as natural as heterosexuality; in example, explain to me WHY heterosexuality is natural, then I can't wait to see your comparison that makes homosexuality natural. Humans abuse homosexuality just like they do all things; we abuse even our perversions. There must be limitations to things , guidelines must be set or humanity will abuse this attitude of " No guideline, no limitations zone", and things will really get out of hand. It may not be all about sex IF THERE ARE GUIDELINES set in place, even in homosexual behavior there must be limitations, or it will germinate to the worse. Humanity is already homosexual, the line has long been crossed, it should now be accepted in society and dealt with fairly, its too late for anything else. But I will maintain my agreement with the biblical guidelines set long ago.
Why do you believe that gays who legitimately love each other are the exception, in your view is homosexuality just about sex...?
Having same sex parents, peer pressure, low self-esteem, poor relationship with father or mother, a homosexual experience as a child with friends, lack of a religious environment, divorced parents, exposure to gay porn as a child, there can be several causes.
My girlfriend has a gay mother (who knew she was gay from childhood, but in the 60s in a black household, that was not going to fly). My girlfriend was NEVER gay nor "became" gay after her mother revealed her true orientation when she still a youngster. Also, in coming to meet this whole new world (to me) of gay people (women in this case), I met quite a few other gay women who have grown children, were married to men (under societal pressure to appear "straight") who are now living an openly gay life and who will tell you they were ALWAYS gay without being abused and all the other things you put up there. Ironically, of the 9 or 10 of these women I know, not ONE of their children is gay. Not one INCLUDING my girlfriend. Ironically, one of my girlfriend's aunts who used to rail against my girlfriend's mother for being gay (using her Jehovah's Witness religious arguments) is the one with an openly gay daughter which infuriates her to no end.
Explain this to me, please, sir.
Thanks.
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