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So the answer is no, you could not choose to have sex with another man? Even if morality was not an issue?
I might. Under the right circumstances.
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You can and do believe whatever you want. It is you who is trying to censor other people's lives. If you are a christian who thinks certain things are sinful, then don't do them.
OK. I won't.
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Just don't expect everybody to behave the same way as you do. Not even all christians agree with you.
I don't. On the other hand, don't expect me to sanction your behavior and tell you that you're good and moral.
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Humans are animals.
But we do have the ability to reason and we have a conscience. We are self-aware and we have the ability to understand right from wrong. At least I think we do. Perhaps you don't.
OMG! No wonder you think sexual orientation is a choice! For you it is. For many people it is not. It is either clams or snails, not both.
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OK. I won't.
I don't. On the other hand, don't expect me to sanction your behavior and tell you that you're good and moral.
As if I would care. But if you start trying to legislate you warped version of morality, I would care very much.
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But we do have the ability to reason and we have a conscience. We are self-aware and we have the ability to understand right from wrong. At least I think we do. Perhaps you don't.
My conscience tells me bigotry is bad. Somehow, even without divine guidance, I am a very moral person. And I am certain it is wrong to get morality from an old book.
Mickiel, I am a believer in God, but he is not all hung up on gleefully creating babieswith heart defects, or allowing sexual preferences just to watch his creation "go naturally wild in all areas of pleasure" (your words). Good Lord, honey, do you reread what you write?
Well its what I believe, minus the over written drama of " Gleefully creating"; Every single baby born with a heart condition, every baby born deformed, every baby born weak and afflicted, it all had to first be approved by God, or it would never happen. If God did NOT want these babies born like this, it would be impossible for them to be.
Well its what I believe, minus the over written drama of " Gleefully creating"; Every single baby born with a heart condition, every baby born deformed, every baby born weak and afflicted, it all had to first be approved by God, or it would never happen. If God did NOT want these babies born like this, it would be impossible for them to be.
No matter who is in this world what people do their private life is their own business. Before any one of us "Judge" them, I suggest we take a long hard look at ourselves in a full length mirror. If that image satisfies you, then fine. BUT! DO NOT judge others based on YOUR expectations of them, or of yourself. Let everyone live THEIR life they way THEY want to live. MYOB
So the "gay marriage" that the media, and the president recently advocated for doesn't exist?
They already have the exact same rights.
In the US, the Defense of Marriage Act legally prevents a same-sex marriage from being legally recognized by enshrining in law that marriage is between 'one man and one woman' for Federal and inter-state purposes (thankfully, part of the DOMA was found unconstitutional and the whole thing is being reviewed later this year).
Proposition 8, you may recall, was a grass-roots effort by a few diehard religious groups that succeeded in denying those 'exact same rights' to gays and lesbians in committed relationships.
An equal right is not 'equal' if it's only available to the majority.
No matter who is in this world what people do their private life is their own business. Before any one of us "Judge" them, I suggest we take a long hard look at ourselves in a full length mirror. If that image satisfies you, then fine. BUT! DO NOT judge others based on YOUR expectations of them, or of yourself. Let everyone live THEIR life they way THEY want to live. MYOB
This is " Why" this world is in a mess, because we all do what we want to do; an excellent psychological move by God to prove his point in the future, he will know, and we will know, just what we will do left to ourselves to live as we wish. There would eventually be no bridge in morality that would not be torn down, in the name of personal rights and freedoms. In this world, as it is now, I think gays should be allowed to marry and have equal rights; its too far gone to have it any other way. Were too perverted in the name of equal rights to even see what limitations are and what they do to shape our future. Were tearing down our future by tearing down our morals. Mind your own business should have certain limitations, not an endless closed door. Its just no telling what people will do with no limitations; right next door to you; prostitution, bomb making, drug dealing, child porn, crime, stealing, overthrow government meetings, mailing technological germs, kidnapping children, imprisoning others against their will, but mind your own business. Don't judge them, give them freedom to do as they wish.
No, there has to be limitations, or we would speed our cars even more; we would cheat more in all areas; credit companys will kill our money if we just mind our business and don't judge how they run theirs Traditional Marriage would soon be obsolete and same sex marriage would decrease the population and totally change hundreds of things in the future. But mind your own business. The lust of the flesh would become legalized and all limits on it being removed would terrorize this earth more than rape does now. Children would be even more confused about family life than they are now, but mind your own business. The more rights gays are given, then the more rights that any " Different sexual desire group must then be given." Men loving boys", humans desiring sexual rights with their animals, child porn legalized because its a right and mind your own business, not caring about what it does to the future. Gays in the boy scouts, military weapons in every home, just rip the fabric of society apart , don't judge anyone and live and let live. No segregation in schools and neighborhoods, play your music as loud as you wish, its your private right.
This is the world we want.
But God will tolerate it for only so long, and then no more. Because if he did not intervene in human affairs, we would rape this earth in our lust, and kill each other.
I can choose whom I have sex with. I was born with a skin color.
This is where the obsession seems to lie with many Christians - the SEX. What's up with that? In fact, you may not be gay or even entertain such ideas but when you start to focus on the SEX in other people's relationship, there might be something there. What if they DON'T have sex or are NOT interested in the sex but they prefer the same sex for their affection, are they still committing sin at that point if they are NOT engaging in sex (at least, as yet)?
Words have meaning and if you fit that meaning........
If I were to insult a black person for no other reason than their skin color then I would fit the textbook definition of bigot. Tiny minds.....
People like you will never understand a gay person no more chooses their sexual orientation than do they choose their skin color.
There is no conclusive proof that people are born gay. If so, then prove it. A large number of gay people have some history of sexual abuse in their past. Studies have shown that the lifestyle is damaging, both physically and mentally.
In particular, this quote is pretty shocking:
“A strong case can be made that the male homosexual lifestyle itself, in its most extreme form, is mentally disturbed,” Dr. Whitehead asserts.
Now (unlike certain atheists who think mockery is a great thing) I don't think it's right to insult anyone personally, but I'm certainly not a bigot for being against the act of homosexuality.
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But if you start trying to legislate you warped version of morality, I would care very much.
