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Old 02-28-2013, 03:23 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Won't you be so red faced embarrassed if you are alive when He returns to rule the earth? I think if I were you I would at least give Him enough respect just in case you may be wrong. That would be the wisest position you could take.

Balogna. The very specific years Daniel was given from the going forth of the word to rebuild Jerusalem to the Messiah as Prince was very exact and only Jesus fulfilled that to a 'T'. No one else even came close.
I still stand by my laughter at the empty threats above, but perhaps I should back up my claim that the 'cut -off messiah' stuff in Daniel matches the events around Onias III and - to use your own terms - only Onias III fulfilled that to a 'T'. No one else even came close. The 'specific years' by the way, had to be fiddled to 'weeks of years' to make them stretch to the 1st c AD.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:15 AM
 
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I still stand by my laughter at the empty threats above, but perhaps I should back up my claim that the 'cut -off messiah' stuff in Daniel matches the events around Onias III and - to use your own terms - only Onias III fulfilled that to a 'T'. No one else even came close. The 'specific years' by the way, had to be fiddled to 'weeks of years' to make them stretch to the 1st c AD.
Great series of posts in this thread.

And it seems your 'prophecy' came true as well.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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Again, where are these writings? You can't just make statements without evidence.
The writings are in my house.

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God doesn't raise people from the dead now. Why would we believe he did it back then?
That's like saying they don't make telegraphs today. Why would we believe they did back then?
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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Won't you be so red faced embarrassed if you are alive when He returns to rule the earth? I think if I were you I would at least give Him enough respect just in case you may be wrong. That would be the wisest position you could take.

Balogna. The very specific years Daniel was given from the going forth of the word to rebuild Jerusalem to the Messiah as Prince was very exact and only Jesus fulfilled that to a 'T'. No one else even came close.
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Is this really the best you can do? Threats and denial.
Threats? Where did I threaten you?

Denial? how did I deny the truth?

Come now AREQUIPA, I'm definitely not into threats. Don't need to.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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There are writings of him in eastern religion as well, which is where I believe his teachings came from. As for Jesus having divinity.........nope

He was just some guy that thought he was the son of god that got whacked. He was one of many.......
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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There are writings of him in eastern religion as well, which is where I believe his teachings came from. As for Jesus having divinity.........nope

He was just some guy that thought he was the son of god that got whacked. He was one of many.......
You would not believe that if you were an eye-witness to His miracles as many thousands were.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Threats? Where did I threaten you?
"Won't you be so red faced embarrassed if you are alive when He returns to rule the earth? I think if I were you I would at least give Him enough respect just in case you may be wrong. That would be the wisest position you could take."

That sunshine, I take as a barefaced threat. You will blandly deny that it is any such thing. Ok, I'll play. So what if Jesus does return to earth? What difference would that make to me, even if he comes here? I'm not anti -Jewish.

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Denial? how did I deny the truth?
By shutting your eyes to the shedloads of evidence that the Bible is not reliable, Christ is a fabrication, and the claims of religion do not stand up.

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Come now AREQUIPA, I'm definitely not into threats. Don't need to.
Then don't do it. Discuss the evidence reasonably.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Isn't this a little like the tootsie-pop question of how many licks to get to the center? There just isn't any way of knowing if there was a person or there wasn't a person if there is no proof.
Of course I suppose you might want to use the Book of Mormon to substantiate the claim that Jesus actually exsisted since he is mention in several chapters.
The challenge of saying one has to just believe (Mormons call it the warm fuzzy feeling) because your soul knows the truth is really kind of shallow and pious. As i once told my Mormon Missionaries and others who used the warm fuzzy feeling analogy, kittens also give me warm fuzzy feelings but I have no delusions of the kitten being a god.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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"Won't you be so red faced embarrassed if you are alive when He returns to rule the earth? I think if I were you I would at least give Him enough respect just in case you may be wrong. That would be the wisest position you could take."

That sunshine, I take as a barefaced threat. You will blandly deny that it is any such thing. Ok, I'll play. So what if Jesus does return to earth? What difference would that make to me, even if he comes here? I'm not anti -Jewish.

By shutting your eyes to the shedloads of evidence that the Bible is not reliable, Christ is a fabrication, and the claims of religion do not stand up.

Then don't do it. Discuss the evidence reasonably.

Oh brother , giving you some personal sage advice is not threatening unless you are a little baby. Waa waaa waaa!

We will see how much a fabrication Christ is when He returns. I win, you win because in spite of your spitefulness, He is going to save you any way.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Isn't this a little like the tootsie-pop question of how many licks to get to the center? There just isn't any way of knowing if there was a person or there wasn't a person if there is no proof.
Of course I suppose you might want to use the Book of Mormon to substantiate the claim that Jesus actually exsisted since he is mention in several chapters.
The challenge of saying one has to just believe (Mormons call it the warm fuzzy feeling) because your soul knows the truth is really kind of shallow and pious. As i once told my Mormon Missionaries and others who used the warm fuzzy feeling analogy, kittens also give me warm fuzzy feelings but I have no delusions of the kitten being a god.
What I find so amazing is these immature naysayers say Christ is just a made-up figure.
Now they will accept a thousands years old book which talks about Plato and say, see here,
Plato really did exist. But they are hypocrites in that they refuse to believe the thousands year old
history book called the New Testament concerning Jesus.
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