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Old 10-26-2007, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Between Here and There
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Originally Posted by GCSTroop View Post
I'm actually surprised no one thought that God made the marijuana plant for a purpose.....
I'm sure there was a purpose in it. Medicinally there are many good uses for it...ask Giz she's gotten relief from it. It well surpasses all other antiemetics. So like other plants there is a purpose, but some people abuse good things and that is always a problem.

 
Old 10-26-2007, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I'm sure there was a purpose in it. Medicinally there are many good uses for it...ask Giz she's gotten relief from it. It well surpasses all other antiemetics. So like other plants there is a purpose, but some people abuse good things and that is always a problem.
I'll be honest with you... I'm not a big fan of painkillers just to alleviate day to day inconveniences. The reason your body "hurts" is because it's telling you it doesn't like the way you're doing something. You sprain your wrist, it hurts if you move it a certain way. If it no longer hurts while you are performing the task because of painkillers, than I think you pose a greater risk of injuring it even more, and in the long run, causing even worse pain.

Don't get me wrong, I beg for the novacaine at the dentist, but to put things in perspective, have you ever tried to eat while you're still numb and bitten your lip? Have you ever bit it so hard that you didn't feel it because of the novacaine but said "Wow, that's gonna hurt like an S O B when the novacaine wears off." I think we induce a lot more pain on ourselves when we take pain medications for "petty" usage. No, I'm not implying that gizmo's arthiritis isn't worthy of medication, I have no idea to the extent of it.

I firmly believe I have carpal tunnel, and I've been meaning to get it checked out. However, I notice that when I have correct "typing posture" it doesn't seem to bother me. Now, if I was doped up on meds I would have no idea if I was incorrectly typing. I don't think that that would help me out in the long run. Yes, if my leg got caught in a woodchipper pass me the morphine, but I'm not going to take pain meds for my carpal tunnel. Sorry to get off topic, just something I've been thinking about for a while now.
 
Old 10-26-2007, 06:09 AM
 
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I'll be honest with you... I'm not a big fan of painkillers just to alleviate day to day inconveniences. The reason your body "hurts" is because it's telling you it doesn't like the way you're doing something. You sprain your wrist, it hurts if you move it a certain way. If it no longer hurts while you are performing the task because of painkillers, than I think you pose a greater risk of injuring it even more, and in the long run, causing even worse pain.

Don't get me wrong, I beg for the novacaine at the dentist, but to put things in perspective, have you ever tried to eat while you're still numb and bitten your lip? Have you ever bit it so hard that you didn't feel it because of the novacaine but said "Wow, that's gonna hurt like an S O B when the novacaine wears off." I think we induce a lot more pain on ourselves when we take pain medications for "petty" usage. No, I'm not implying that gizmo's arthiritis isn't worthy of medication, I have no idea to the extent of it.

I firmly believe I have carpal tunnel, and I've been meaning to get it checked out. However, I notice that when I have correct "typing posture" it doesn't seem to bother me. Now, if I was doped up on meds I would have no idea if I was incorrectly typing. I don't think that that would help me out in the long run. Yes, if my leg got caught in a woodchipper pass me the morphine, but I'm not going to take pain meds for my carpal tunnel. Sorry to get off topic, just something I've been thinking about for a while now.
I'm with you on that. When I went to the doctor for my brokeness last week he gave me a huge supply of vicodin...and I've only taken 1...because that day I drove too much and I couldn't sleep with the throbbing. But normally I'd rather be in a little pain than fuzzy headed...being the control freak that I am I like to have control of myself as well. But like you said for extreme dibilitating pain that interfers with daily living then pain management is needed. Again it's very easy to abuse these things and people need to be careful what they are doing with them. Oh and yes I've had that experience with novacaine...and it's not pretty.


Edit: Also try a wrist guard for the carpal tunnel it will keep your wrist in the right position.

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Old 10-26-2007, 06:59 AM
 
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I agree Irish and Troop..I very seldom take anything for pain, except an extra strength tylenol now and then (even that makes me very sleepy) Never could figure out why a healthy person would want to take medication for each and every little ache and pain
 
Old 10-26-2007, 01:20 PM
 
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Since marijuana = cannabis:

Genesis 1:11 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."
Genesis 3:18 "... thou shalt eat the herb of the field."
Proverbs 15:17 "Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith."[1]
Psalms 104:14 "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man."
According to Rastafarian and other scholars, the etymology of the word "cannabis" and similar terms in all the languages of the Near East may be traced to the Hebrew qaneh bosm קנה-בשם that is one of the herbs God commands Moses to include in his preparation of sacred anointing perfume in Exodus 30:23; the Hebrew term also appears in Isaiah 43:24; Jeremiah 6:20; Ezekiel 27:19; and Song of Songs 4:14. Deuterocanonical and canonical references to the patriarchs Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses "burning incense before the Lord"
How do I say this....

By asking where it mentioned marijuana in the Bible, I wasn't trying to infer that it wasn't created by God. I was asking where it specifically mentions it as a plant which people smoke. But thanks for the info.

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I'm actually surprised no one thought that God made the marijuana plant for a purpose.....
I believe ALL things were made for a purpose. I just think we've used them for the wrong purposes.

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Originally Posted by GCSTroop View Post
I'll be honest with you... I'm not a big fan of painkillers just to alleviate day to day inconveniences. The reason your body "hurts" is because it's telling you it doesn't like the way you're doing something. You sprain your wrist, it hurts if you move it a certain way. If it no longer hurts while you are performing the task because of painkillers, than I think you pose a greater risk of injuring it even more, and in the long run, causing even worse pain.

Don't get me wrong, I beg for the novacaine at the dentist, but to put things in perspective, have you ever tried to eat while you're still numb and bitten your lip? Have you ever bit it so hard that you didn't feel it because of the novacaine but said "Wow, that's gonna hurt like an S O B when the novacaine wears off." I think we induce a lot more pain on ourselves when we take pain medications for "petty" usage. No, I'm not implying that gizmo's arthiritis isn't worthy of medication, I have no idea to the extent of it.

I firmly believe I have carpal tunnel, and I've been meaning to get it checked out. However, I notice that when I have correct "typing posture" it doesn't seem to bother me. Now, if I was doped up on meds I would have no idea if I was incorrectly typing. I don't think that that would help me out in the long run. Yes, if my leg got caught in a woodchipper pass me the morphine, but I'm not going to take pain meds for my carpal tunnel. Sorry to get off topic, just something I've been thinking about for a while now.
Funny you should mention biting your lip while you're numbed up from Novacaine. Years ago, when my brother had some dental work done, his whole jaw and chin were numb from the Novacaine and he somehow felt he had an itch on his chin. In trying to scratch it, the itch didn't go away, nor did he feel how hard he was scratching. He ended up scratching so deeply that he tore away some of the skin and had a big raw patch.

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I agree Irish and Troop..I very seldom take anything for pain, except an extra strength tylenol now and then (even that makes me very sleepy) Never could figure out why a healthy person would want to take medication for each and every little ache and pain
I actually don't like taking medication if I don't have to - regardless of what its stated purpose is. I try to avoid popping painkillers if I can, but sometimes I get such a nagging ache that I want some relief from it. But if it's minor annoyance, I try to deal with it.
 
Old 10-26-2007, 01:31 PM
 
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Moderator cut: Hi everyone! We have managed to veer waaaaay off topic. While I don't think we necessarily want to be "relocated" to "Health and Wellness," I do feel we need to resume getting back ON topic??? Thanks, June
 
Old 10-26-2007, 02:03 PM
 
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Moderator cut: Hi everyone! We have managed to veer waaaaay off topic. While I don't think we necessarily want to be "relocated" to "Health and Wellness," I do feel we need to resume getting back ON topic??? Thanks, June
I thought we were on topic, my dear.

See.......this is the OP:

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I a evengelical christian, not a whako though, I find nothing wrong with enjoying the herb that god put on earth. It says nothing in the bible about it. What do you think?
 
Old 10-26-2007, 02:26 PM
 
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I a evengelical christian, not a whako though, I find nothing wrong with enjoying the herb that god put on earth. It says nothing in the bible about it. What do you think?
This is the op which I had to go back several pages to find..I believe that most things God God created were definitely for the benefit for man to use. Most of our cancer drugs come from the rain forest and many other drugs come from a variety of vegetation. Marijuana was used in the past to relieve pain and is still the pain reliever choice of some people..IMO though the mere idea of taking the carcinigens from the smoke into your lungs defeats the action of pain relief..Maybe God gave us that plant to be used as a topical pain reliever. Sometimes we just have to wait on research to figure out the benefits and ways to use all the things God has given us
 
Old 10-26-2007, 02:33 PM
 
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IMO though the mere idea of taking the carcinigens from the smoke into your lungs defeats the action of pain relief..
Well, the pain relief is still there despite the carcinogens.
I suppose you are saying that the pain relief is not WORTH the intake of carcinogens.
But you cannot know that until you use marijuana for pain relief yourself.
Now a question: taking the THC pill (same effect - no smoke) is OK with you?
 
Old 10-26-2007, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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I'm sure there was a purpose in it. Medicinally there are many good uses for it...ask Giz she's gotten relief from it. It well surpasses all other antiemetics. So like other plants there is a purpose, but some people abuse good things and that is always a problem.
Yes, I do get relief from it, and without the nasty side-effects of other Rx drugs (I'm allergic to aspirin, and had a horrible reaction to a few others like vioxx). To clear up your confusion, I have severe osteoarthritis in my feet, knees, hips, shoulders, and probably a few other places... I was recommended surgery on the knees last year, but I'm trying to put it off as long as possible. So we're not just talking about a headache, but rather a continuous pain in most of my joints - which only an arthritis sufferer can really relate to. In addition, I have a few other medical problems that are helped by the marijuana, but I'd rather not go into them here.

As for pain relief, I see no reason to be "tough" when there's something fairly harmless that can help... why suck it up? I do have a HIGH tolerance to pain, and can suffer through just about anything! For example, I walked to work & stayed for 6 hours, minutes after breaking a bone in my foot. I also have - ummmm - 14? tattoos and 10 piercings, and was a competitive figure skater (the main cause of my arthritis), so obviously I'm not a baby. Anyway, I don't need to justify my use of this prescription, since I'm the one who has to deal with it on a daily basis. And to keep it on topic, I think God would approve of using his herbs to feel relief.
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