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Probably not a good example for your 'one true morality' theory considering Hitler was a Christian. Whether or not we today would consider Nazism moral, Hilter certainly did, and used the Bible and God to justify his actions. Which by your view, would make Hitler a very moral individual.
Probably not a good example for your 'one true morality' theory considering Hitler was a Christian. Whether or not we today would consider Nazism moral, Hilter certainly did, and used the Bible and God to justify his actions. Which by your view, would make Hitler a very moral individual.
No. He wasn't. That is nonsense.
What teaching of Christianity would you suggest we look to to justify his actions?
What teaching of Christianity would you suggest we look to to justify his actions?
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922
Sounds eerily and sadly, like many of the "explanations" I've heard from Fundamentalists to "justify" their insane beliefs.
What teaching of Christianity would you suggest we look to to justify his actions?
I don't have to justify his actions. Hitler had to, and he felt the Bible and belief in the lord was his justification.
That's (one of the) problem(s) with your belief that the only true moral code is with God and not man. You believe that if man follows his own conscience, he cannot truly claim to be moral because everyone will have a different opinion on what 'moral' means.
If we put morality on God's shoulders to carry for us and take no responsibility ourselves for deciding right from wrong, this issue does not disappear. Every person who reads the Bible will have a different opinion of what God meant when he said x,y, or z. This is why Christianity has so many different sects.
By your beliefs, Hitler was more moral in his attempt at genocide than an atheist who went to war to stop him. Even if you disagree with his reading of the Bible, Hitler looked to God to determine his moral code. He believed passionately that his acts where in service to the Lord. The atheist, however, was acting from his conscience, which to you is immoral because man cannot determine morality.
So morality is not based on society? How do we determine what is right and wrong?
There has never been a society or group of humans in which some form of immorality (depending on whose definition is in use) hasn't manifested.
In general, people seem to have an innate sense of right and wrong. Some people ignore it; others are apparently born without it (i e. sociopaths and the like, many of whom I've worked with closely.)
There are some societal constructs--some political, others religious, and more--that inculcate their followers with what could be said to be objective immorality...enslavement and genocide, for example.
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