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Old 07-18-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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And yet he put the most sexually sensitive part of a woman outside the vagina. And he allowed Michael Bolton to make music.

What's up with that?
The Bolton comment actually caused me to chuckle. Good one. I would say that is a result of our sinful natures. Sin causes some horrible things to happen.

As for the first? I honestly don't know why he did that. He has never seen fit to tell me.
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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The Bolton comment actually caused me to chuckle. Good one. I would say that is a result of our sinful natures. Sin causes some horrible things to happen.
Such as exposure to Michael Bolton?
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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By virtue of the fact that he created the universe, he is the standard for perfection. It's imcomprehensible that he would not be perfect.
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I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "fact."
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Yet another profound post by TroutDude.

Let me know when you want to post something that will add to the conversation, so I'll pay attention.
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That you are unable to discern, let alone appreciate, the pointed pithiness of my posts has been apparent for years.

Indeed.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The "God" of the Bible is obviously far from perfect.
There is no such thing. The Bible presents several different perceptions of the nature of God, ranging from the anthropomorphic God (among several) who didn't want Adam and Eve to become His equal and who stopped by to visit with Abraham on His way to see if what He had heard about Sodom and Gomorrah was true or not, to the very humane and loving God of Jeremiah and Micah, culminating in the perception of God as love presented by Jesus. It's a mixed bag.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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There is no such thing. The Bible presents several different perceptions of the nature of God, ranging from the anthropomorphic God (among several) who didn't want Adam and Eve to become His equal and who stopped by to visit with Abraham on His way to see if what He had heard about Sodom and Gomorrah was true or not, to the very humane and loving God of Jeremiah and Micah, culminating in the perception of God as love presented by Jesus. It's a mixed bag.
Yes, He does seem to suffer from multiple personality disorder. And yet, the Bible states that He is eternal and unchanging.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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The Bolton comment actually caused me to chuckle. Good one. I would say that is a result of our sinful natures. Sin causes some horrible things to happen.
Right, that's the evangelical Christian model of reality. Anything imperfect or bad is blamed on sin/the fall/the devil. And "free will" is the excuse for why the Christian God created a universe with the possibility of sin/the fall/the devil.

The model isn't right. It isn't even wrong.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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By virtue of the fact that he created the universe, he is the standard for perfection. It's imcomprehensible that he would not be perfect.
I'm sorry, but that still doesn't make any sense. Why? Why, because something could be smarter than we are and be creative, would that mean it must be perfect? It simply means it's creative.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm sorry, but that still doesn't make any sense. Why? Why, because something could be smarter than we are and be creative, would that mean it must be perfect? It simply means it's creative.
Also, it stands to reason that a perfect being would create a perfect world.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Also, it stands to reason that a perfect being would create a perfect world.
Reason is anathema to the religious fundamentalist.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Reason is anathema to the religious.
Yes, you've got me there.
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