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Old 04-14-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Only in the world of unpardonable sins is suicide unacceptable. I note that within Japanese society it is quite acceptable. It relieves the family, most often destitute ones, of the inevitable costs of medical expense at the end of one's life. I notice that the highest percentage, by an enormous percentage, of medical expenses are paid out within the last few months or weeks of one's life. It might well cost into the $100s of thousands of dollars paid into the greater medical insurance profitizing fund.

So, to look at it all dispassionately, knowing hat (fact) we do indeed all die in the end, why not do it quietly, with self-respect. I know why the great Christian religion despises it, since otherwise all of their sheeple would be crowding around the communal gas pipe trying to speed their entry into Heaven.

And so, understandably, it was decided that suicide had to be yet another unforgivable" sin. Clever, huh?
Plus, if you're dead, you can't tithe.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I believe they consider suicide the unpardonable sin, however we don't where his walk with the Lord was so it is God's final judgement not ours as I feel badly for his family.
The Bible is coy about what, exactly, the unpardonable sin is, although there are those who claim to have it nailed. It is variously thought to be suicide, blasphemy against god, or simply "resisting the Holy Spirit" (not accepting Jesus, or according to some, just being particularly resistant, like say, being an obstinate atheist). It has been labeled many other things over the centuries, usually some "sin" that the clergy of that era and denomination considered just too awful to be forgiven. I think the true reason it was written that way is as a counter to "once saved always saved", to keep people uneasy ...
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I don't know what the unpardonable sin is as identified in the Bible, but the current religious concensus - whether they realize it ir not - is that the supreme Sin is Doubt. Doubt about the existence of gods, doubt about the veracity of scripture, doubt about the claims on which religious authority is based. That is the one area where all the religions of the book will sink their differences and stand together to fight -when threatened with Doubt.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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I don't know what the unpardonable sin is as identified in the Bible, but the current religious concensus - whether they realize it ir not - is that the supreme Sin is Doubt. Doubt about the existence of gods, doubt about the veracity of scripture, doubt about the claims on which religious authority is based. That is the one area where all the religions of the book will sink their differences and stand together to fight -when threatened with Doubt.
That's a fair analysis. Ultimately, unbelief = resisting the holy spirit = blaspheming god = doubt, and that about covers the major theories about what it is. Even if someone asserts that it's some particularly feared bugbear like "sexual sin" or homosexuality or any random thing like masturbating or cursing or smoking or not tithing, those are all resisting the holy spirit in a sense too. You follow those arbitrary man-made rules because you're supposed to believe they are god-made or at the very least directly inferred from god-made rules. Once you break with that fiction in any serious way beyond simply being filled with angst and fear of doubting -- once you actually doubt -- you must become persona non grata.
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