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Old 04-16-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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At least until society changes to the point where it's accepted, right? 20 years ago the idea of homosexuality being widely accepted and calling 2 men "married" was ludicrous. Next up will be polygamy...and it's only a matter of time until pedophilia is mainstream.


No...they didn't listen to God, just as you don't.
Polygamy, keeping concubines for sex, kidnapping and raping young girls, slavery etc were condoned by your god Yahweh.

We've come a long way since Biblical times - thank goodness. It's not likely we'll go back to those times unless we somehow end up with a fundamentalist Theocracy like that depicted in:

The Handmaid's Tale
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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M this seems straying away from the point and the OP , there is obviously zero awareness brought along in the global sex trade. The stats and research does nothing but get worse including many spots in the country that are known hot spots, never mind world...sheesh, so this railroad is going promptly into the bin.
Speaking of stats, you heterosexual men are a menace with all your schoolgirl porn, rape, child molestation etc

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The point is homosexuality is wrong, anti-life and cannot be anything but a deliberate expression of ...

the extermination of the species..*concrete fact. Its sounds what it sounds like, but thats exactly what it is.
So basically, you have never had sex unless it was for procreation. You have never used condoms or other birth control. Have you fathered any children? How many times have you ever had sex?
I'm sorry for you if your life only focuses around sex.

By the way, it was Leonardo da Vinci's birthday the other day. He was a gay man. He never had any children.

Was he of less value to 'the species' than some low IQ idiot who dropped their pants, had sex with a teenage girl, fathered a child, and left it?

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Old 04-16-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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At least until society changes to the point where it's accepted, right? 20 years ago the idea of homosexuality being widely accepted and calling 2 men "married" was ludicrous. Next up will be polygamy...and it's only a matter of time until pedophilia is mainstream.


No...they didn't listen to God, just as you don't.
vizio, please check yourself - you simply should not make a habit of deciding who is and who isn't "listening to God".

That's just not your place AT ALL.

I understand your frustration with our culture, it's changing/lack of values - many of us are frustrated.

But you could accomplish so much more in God's name with that fine mind of yours and your Biblical knowledge if you took a different approach, especially on this forum.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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vizio, please check yourself - you simply should not make a habit of deciding who is and who isn't "listening to God".

That's just not your place AT ALL.
And you get to decide that? That seems intolerant.
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I understand your frustration with our culture, it's changing/lack of values - many of us are frustrated.

But you could accomplish so much more in God's name with that fine mind of yours and your Biblical knowledge if you took a different approach, especially on this forum.
I'm sorry if you disagree with what I'm saying. I think the point stands, though. God has declared some things to be right and wrong. We can't, as a society, overrule that and expect good to happen.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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And you get to decide that? That seems intolerant.
But it's not intolerant when you do it. Gotcha.


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I'm sorry if you disagree with what I'm saying. I think the point stands, though. God has declared some things to be right and wrong. We can't, as a society, overrule that and expect good to happen.
God declared no such thing. Ancient men who purported to be channeling him did.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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But it's not intolerant when you do it. Gotcha.
Actually, tolerance isn't disagreeing--it's agreeing that we can disagree. You don't like what I have to say? Knock yourself out. Tell me about it. I don't mind. But you guys don't seem to appreciate anyone telling you the same.
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God declared no such thing. Ancient men who purported to be channeling him did.
Of course he did.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Speaking of stats, you heterosexual men are a menace with all your schoolgirl porn, rape, child molestation etc




So basically, you have never had sex unless it was for procreation. You have never used condoms or other birth control. Have you fathered any children? How many times have you ever had sex?
I'm sorry for you if your life only focuses around sex.

By the way, it was Leonardo da Vinci's birthday the other day. He was a gay man. He never had any children.

Was he of less value to 'the species' than some low IQ idiot who dropped their pants, had sex with a teenage girl, fathered a child, and left it?


Thats right, good you noticed the whole world is advancing in moral decay. The rest of your idea in reply won't work because the occasion in gay same gender, is the foundation for the gay act, and fully in keeping with the observation as a fundamental condition, in the expression. Thats the point. So

The gay encounter, effort and path is conditional in its same gender nature, to be, and is captured in what cannot be anything but an expression in the extermination of the species, will-full or not. So it would appear a total mental and instinctive disconnect with reality, where a total meaning in unity is in another world, with exact opposing force's to our world. An imaginative inter-play in severe complaint to the point of insanity, to either history in experience or extreme desperation in the lack of opportunity, to express unity in its understood and inescapable reality. Suggestion is a very powerful participant in human experience in many ways.

Interesting on two notes...I remember in this forum not long ago a gay advocate tried to suggest gay was further moral because the world is over populated, next would be giving the big ok to poison in battle I suppose. The second is that it would have been at least about 3000 years ago that man pieced this together in forming up societies and organization in context, so thats how far behind not only this culture is but obviously what I suspect some possible Ed.

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Old 04-16-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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Funny how slavery and raping or and beating your wife use to be mainstream isn't it. I think we've learned what's harmful behavior and what's not despite Christian influence not because of it. Polygamy is on it's way out and pedophilia won't be tolerated any more than murder is.

The problem with fundamentalist IMO is that their fundamentals change only to fit their current desires. It has nothing to do with mainstream society. Fundamentalist don't function is mainstream society anymore, you'll have to adjust to it. Being gay is a right in this country, being a pedophile is not. Neither has to do with religious laws.

Morals aren't reserved for the religious. The devil isn't in charge of bad things, and God isn't in charge of good things in America. Society is in charge of both, what we allow and what we don't as a whole.

That's because we all differ in religious belief, but we don't differ in acceptable social behavior. If it isn't harmful to society we allow it, if it is harmful to society we don't, regardless of individual religious laws because religious laws vary. Societies laws are unified for the good of "ALL", not just for the good of Christians. So don't worry, your covered, pedophiles and polygamy won't become mainstream in your future. But, gays, yes, you'll have gays everywhere. They harm nobody in society, quite the opposite. Get use to it. The south got use to the absence of slavery, I think you can muster tolerance for gay people.
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