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Old 04-09-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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DETROIT -- A Detroit professor and legal adviser to the Vatican says Catholics who promote gay marriage should not try to receive holy Communion.

And the archbishop of Detroit, Allen Vigneron, said Sunday that Catholics who receive Communion while advocating gay marriage would “logically bring shame for a double-dealing that is not unlike perjury.”

Some Catholics asked to not take Communion
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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And the Catholic hierarchy wonders why people are leaving the church in droves....
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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Good for them. It's not rocket science. You teach something the church believes to be wrong....why would you expect to be able to participate in its sacraments? It's mind-boggling how people have issue with catholic church standing up for what it believes.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The Catholic church can of course stand up for what it believes.

And adherents (of which I was one) can choose to leave said church when they disagree. And at least in first world countries, congregants are voting with their feet.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The Church rejects same sex marriage - and always has. Therefore, I believe what the Church is doing is totally correct.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Real Catholics are hoping for the day when some people are refused. Bishops will continue to have no credibility until they do this.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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Just what is wrong with treating all people, regardless of their race,religion, sex or sexual orientation,or political belief, as equals. We're all members of the same human race and what ever religious or spiritual belief we may have should not be a prerequisite as to how we treat one another. If a certain religious organization teaches one thing and some members of its congregation do not agree with what is being taught, then nothing should stop them from leaving that particular religious organization and seeking another that is agreeable to them and their belief.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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But yes, of course society needs laws.

Are you going to insist those laws should be based on biblical admonitions and recommendations?
The Bible are the "laws" for those are trying to be / follow their religious beliefs.

BTW, US Codes / Laws are, in part, biblical based. One example, the 10 Commandments and Bible says though shalt not kill. So does man made laws.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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Meh, it's their right, AFAIK. More people will fall away from the Catholic faith as there are, as I understand things, a good amount of gay Catholics, but it is what it is. I'm not saying that in a threatening way to the Catholic church or anything, they should not be seeking "as many members as possible" anyway, they are only seeking like-minded people, so even if that ends up being 100 people, that's who it ends up being.

If the RCC truly, legitimately doesn't believe gays are following what they espouse, then they really, truly don't. If, OTOH, this is a ploy to "make" gays "turn straight," that won't happen. It can't. So the RCC will be doing as it thinks is right, and so will gay people who are believers in Christianity.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The Bible are the "laws" for those are trying to be / follow their religious beliefs.

BTW, US Codes / Laws are, in part, biblical based. One example, the 10 Commandments and Bible says though shalt not kill. So does man made laws.
That's not correct. Societies throughout the world and throughout history have outlawed murder. US laws do not require citizens to honor their father and mother, or to keep the Sabbath Day holy. That's because US laws have their basis in English common law, not in the 10 Commandments.

Now, back to the discussion about telling Catholics what they should do ...
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