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On the show "Frasier" there was once an episode where Frasier decided that he needed to keep his analytical skills intact by practicing with patients rather than just doing his radio shrink show. To that end his brother Niles invited him to observe and participate in some of his group therapy sessions. Of course this being a sit com, conflict quickly arose and the brothers began quarreling in front of the group. Among the little insults they were exchanging, Niles at one point said "You must remember, this is real, it isn't the radio. No hanging up on the hard ones."
Reviewing the multitude of posts which have dissected and blasted your arguments to bits, I cannot help but notice a pattern in which ones you select for a response from you. And that brings to mind Niles' admonition about "hanging up on the hard ones."
Most atheists outside the U.S. are not as militant as atheists living in America. If atheists in America were quiet and did not sue or be against anything about Christian law and principle, they would have been more accepted.
Oh. I see. "Siddown and shuddup!", huh? Just as you'd like it, you militant theocratic thug. Good thing we "mlitant" atheists are here to prevent your quasi-militant takeover. I can see the official cattle cars lined up at the train yards, akin to an earlier event oranized by Hitler to finish off "Die Endlösung" (The Final Solution) for us damned atheists.
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Originally Posted by OneLess
Correct. Since Christians are majority, we should have Christian laws, culture and principle. We want to have Christian crosses/statues in public area without being sued and forced to remove them, and have more Christian national holidays without people getting offended.
Oh my: now I see how your tilted and miserable theocratic thuggistá mind works. Thanks be to your god we do not have to endure such para-military rough-housing amongst those of us protected by our wonderful US Constitution, that paragon of civil and logical thinking, and the very document that prevents you from inflicting your personal biases onto a far-clearer thinking population than you would like to be witness to.
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Originally Posted by OneLess
How about becoming a Christian nation? Iran used to be secular, and thru referendum they became an Islamic nation. We should perhaps put it to vote, and if majority votes for becoming a Christian nation then we should be allowed to have an official state religion. Official state religion is not something evil, and is very common in many peaceful countries. This is Christianity, not Islam. How many officially Christian countries have you seen that kill non-Christians, or those who leave their faith? How many Christian countries have you seen cutting of peoples head for being gay? None.
What's wrong with having crosses / Jesus statue at the yard of the White house, supreme court and other public buildings if the majority are Christians? Non-Christians could pretend they live in a Christian country, and some people even think we are a Christian nation anyway.
What's wrong with all that you ask? Because I personally protest and do not want such antique unsupportable mythology force-fed down my otherwise clear-headed persona, that's why. You are denied such thuggistry in this country, and despite what you creatively imagine, Christianity is NOT a growing cohort, nor is it now even in the majority. Rather, it's a shrinking percentage, thank heaven, with the education of our always smarter school kids overtaking blind faith-based non-think.
But as to changing it to your whimsical Christian theocracy.....
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Originally Posted by Grandstander
It already was voted upon. The 13 states ratified the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the US Constitution on December 15, 1791. Among those amendments approved by ratification process was the first amendment which states unambiguously that the US government was not to be in the religion business. It wasn't allowed to start one, it wasn't allowed to legislate against one.
The men who crafted these laws in the 18th Century, had in mind the examples of the 17th Century which they very much wished to avoid. The English Civil War, and the Thirty Years War, were both the consequence of fusing religion with government. The ongoing turmoil in the mid east is a consequence of fusing religion and government, establishing that things have not improved in that area over the last 200 years. The Constitutional authors were very wise to avoid the calamities which accompany introducing religious zealotry to the ability to pass and enforce laws.
Further, even if you were to achieve your goal of having the nation declared "Officially Christian", how will that work? Does that mean intoleration of those of different beliefs, persecution of them? Will someone be able to be fired from a job for not being a Christian? Denied Civil Rights because he or she is an apostate?
And which sect of Christianity did you have in mind for the official dogma of the nation? Catholic? Baptist? Calvinist? Latter Day Saint? The Second Reformed Joyous Redeemer Pentecostals of Bakersfield, California? If we can make Christianity the official religion, don't you think that there will be those who insist that it be the dogma of their sect which prevails?
You want to be a petty religious dictator, insisting that everyone is required to believe what you believe. When you are asked for the evidence or proof of your beliefs, you either do not respond, or answer with lies you invent on the spot.
You provide us with no reasons to listen to you, and immensely good reasons to make absolutely sure that you and like minded persons never get their hands on any government office.
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Originally Posted by Jaymax
In other words you want a Christian Taliban.
Seems to be that way, for sure, Jaymax. Fortunately, this is patently clear, and thus it's inhrent dangers to our free society are obvious, and as a result we'll chase them out of the weeds, like illegal alien "immigrants" running for their lives into America's heartland. 'S-OK: we'll make sure these types end up in the correct "holding facility".
That's like 5.6% of the population. Proportionate to 17.6 million in the United States. Meanwhile there are over 33 million Americans saying they have "no religion."
Why would you think 67 million Chinese is significant?
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