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1. Relatively modern indentured servants were called slaves in the OT.
2. Slaves in the OT were not the same as the slaves in the relatively modern times because they were indentured servants.
Got it.
So can still coalesce those two.
In his head (since we know him as "Vizio the LMAO historian") he believes he must support his idol with every degree of gymnastics. What he has forced himself to believe is that there was no such thing as "owning people as property and removing all their (dare I say it) 'God-given' rights" back in the Iron Ages.
It was either slavery or dungeon prison (or perhaps death) for debters buddy Vizio.
Jesus and Paul of the Iron age, were undeniably immoral, since they thought "benevolent" slavery was civil and necessary.
Vizio, to support his inky idol, does not believe in inalienable human rights. He believes human rights are alienable when you owe money, and when his YHWH, commands to alienate them. And if he doesn't, then I hope he settles his cognitive dissonance in one of the good ways.
And how about children whose parents had sold them?
A prisoner of war is a prisoner of war. War has its risks. Being killed is one of them, another is capture. Laws of war are different than civilian law.
Only a prepubescent girl could be sold into slavery and she went free as soon as she turned twelve.
A prisoner of war is a prisoner of war. War has its risks. Being killed is one of them, another is capture. Laws of war are different than civilian law.
You can spin and waffle all you want but it isn't going to alter the fact that your Bible and your man-god Jesus condones slavery.
Slaves automatically went free the sabbatical year called shmita.
Slaves could not be forced into slavery. Prisoners of war ended up slaves.
False, as expected from a Christian or someone else similarly ill-informed.
Only slaves who were Jews and owned by Jews would be set free for fullfilment of debt payment.
unless they married while slaves, in which case they would stay slaves, even though Jew, forever.
Foreign slaves could of course be kept forever also, whether they married a Jewish slavewomen (in which case she would be forever enslaved) or anyone else.
Debters, the poor, prisoners of war, people sold into slavery by their parents, prisoners of inquisitions, prisoners of genocide attempts, prisoners of conquest campaigns, victims of famine, etc... all of these and more could be FORCED into slavery.
The character in the "good news" short essays named "Jesus," says to beat your slaves severely if they knowingly do not follow your (the owner's) will, and to beat them with a rod moderately (as you would a child) if they didn't know any better. Indeed, those were the laws of the land at the time, since the rich people had control
Beating a slave for not following your orders is called "forcing them into slavery"
I don't know how they enforced or followed this observance of forgiving all debts on the seventh year, it looks like according to Deutoronomy, they left it up to the people, who would of course hardly follow such a religious suggestion.
ok, right, now I see - it's ok for a child to be sold into slavery cos' they like, get free once they turn 12.
Nice
I think, according to Paul, what they would have gotten was the Ability to BUY their human rights back, once they turned 12 and could pay for their worth and all they cost/owed their masters.
Slaves automatically went free the sabbatical year called shmita.
Slaves could not be forced into slavery. Prisoners of war ended up slaves.
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Originally Posted by LuminousTruth
False, as expected from a Christian or someone else similarly ill-informed.
Perhaps they think we are too ignorant to see through their attempt to bamboozle us!!
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