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Old 06-12-2013, 03:59 AM
 
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:16 AM
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To be fair, the graphic leaves out all the positive advances in religion, such as the development of liberal wings of most major religions that place evidence and reason over the mythologies of their heritage, in matters of science.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:51 AM
 
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The religious side seems to be missing the countless beatings and beheadings and other crimes against women. But I suppose the graphic was just meant to hit the highlights.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:54 AM
 
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This is only the last 50 years and pretty much what I have witnessed happening via the news of course.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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To be fair, the graphic leaves out all the positive advances in religion, such as the development of liberal wings of most major religions that place evidence and reason over the mythologies of their heritage, in matters of science.
There are no positive advancements in religion, unless you consider movement toward atheism as advancement, then I'm with you. IMO, mostly these "moderations" are necessitated by the advancements in science, in order to keep religion relavent and with at least a shred of credibility.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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Science is amazing. Religion is, well, underwhelming.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:24 AM
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There are no positive advancements in religion, unless you consider movement toward atheism as advancement, then I'm with you.
I consider movements toward Atheism a good first step in religion - i.e., away from superstitious nonsense that people try to pass-off as truth. However, once you get to Atheism you realize that a reliance on reason and evidence to assert objective truth still leaves open matters regarding decency and meaning. Continuing past Atheism and building on it, retaining a firm grasp on reason and evidence as the only valid foundations for asserting objective truth, it is important to develop or foster an existing foundation for matters regarding decency and meaning, a foundation that goes beyond petty, instinctual, callous and self-centered self-interest. All that's advanced, albeit in limited quarters, over the last 50 years.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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Science looks for a cure for the weak, sick and mentally ill. Religion preys on the weak, sick and mentally ill. They're advancement is reflective of their goals, IMO.

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Old 06-12-2013, 10:25 AM
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Interesting graphic.

I agree that Science has brought more good to the world than any organized religion has. But it also brought the ability to inflict death, agony and devastation on a massive scale.

And some of the good religion does cannot be measured - such as bringing its adherents peace of mind. What is that worth?
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:31 AM
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And some of the good religion does cannot be measured - such as bringing its adherents peace of mind. What is that worth?
Good point, though let's be fair: Some adherents derive peace of mind from religions that explicitly afford such things in the context of perspectives that damage the peace of mind of others. I think that one is actually a wash.
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