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Old 06-23-2013, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Shreveport, LA
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I want to know what is out there…
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:40 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Personally I don't think so.

Now, if an intelligent alien race were to appear to us tomorrow, and they say they have observed us before, what would become of all those detractors who call UFO believers kooks, quacks and other names? It'd be like a big egg-in-the-face.
Well, that would depend whether or not they said 'we never did any of that UFO stuff. That was all misidentification, delusion and hoax.'
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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Well, that would depend whether or not they said 'we never did any of that UFO stuff. That was all misidentification, delusion and hoax.'
Or they could say, "yeah, you know that one time 4 quarks ago where we showed up over your capitol during an atomic weapons escalation, that was our fault in observing your political structure". Or "sorry about that whole disappearing flying transports problem we caused you, we were just studying.".
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:02 AM
 
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Yes. The thing is that alien civilizations Out There is no support really for the UFO argument. One can can fantasize about aliens turning up and saying 'Yep, it was us all the time' or 'No, that was all your imagination'. It is still wishful thinking fantasy. It is no more valid or persuasive that a Bible believer threatening us with Jesus coming in power, reclining on a cloud like a chaise longue and saying 'Well, I bet you atheists are feeling darned sillly now.'
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Would an intelligent alien race deduce the Christian God?

Now, that wouldn't make them very intelligent would it?
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Are any Christians up to answering this question without appealing to Ignorance?
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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Are any Christians up to answering this question without appealing to Ignorance?
"Christians, answer this question, but only by the parameters that I WANT and you can't use the texts of your faith because they are illegitimate."

That is all I'm getting from you, you only want to play by your rules, and shout down anyone who disagrees.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:26 PM
 
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"Christians, answer this question, but only by the parameters that I WANT and you can't use the texts of your faith because they are illegitimate."

That is all I'm getting from you, you only want to play by your rules, and shout down anyone who disagrees.
Your pseudo-intellectual lawyering aside, if you think that the parameter of no appeals to ignorance, a formalized logical fallacy, is unreasonable, then you have no business debating anything.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:28 PM
 
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Your pseudo-intellectual lawyering aside, if you think that the parameter of no appeals to ignorance, a formalized logical fallacy, is unreasonable, then you have no business debating anything.
Well, hey, if you like having your own one-sided arguments to tear down the other side to show how "right" you are...

Be my guest.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Actually there will be celestial beings who will challenge the Christian belief in the last day but these being were created by God already , as these being or of the spiritual in nature, as these beings will manipulate man to intimate Christians and persecute them to the point were divisions will be no more , and they will bond together to defend themselves , ..See the celestial beings are the spirit of antichrist , and the dragon beast who are fallen angels of the earth who are unseen being and alien to humans , but real indeed .... Then through the Judgment of Jesus Christ , Jesus will squash these fallen angels out of authority for His plan to continue in the world .....See demons and fallen angels are the alien which have been a witness to people in the world ....
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