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I've asked this numerous times on here and never been told the answer. Who defines your sense of morality? You think those are bad? So? Some cultures think those things are good.
Common sense. Knowing that murdering an innocent man for picking up sticks in defiance of Moses, and blaming God for it is sick and evil. Common sense. Common sense. There, now I told you numerous times.
Common sense. Knowing that murdering an innocent man for picking up sticks in defiance of Moses, and blaming God for it is sick and evil. Common sense. Common sense. There, now I told you numerous times.
I've tried the common-sense thing on him a few times too. Doesn't work. Seems to be immune.
Common sense. Knowing that murdering an innocent man for picking up sticks in defiance of Moses, and blaming God for it is sick and evil. Common sense. Common sense. There, now I told you numerous times.
The problem is, there is no such thing as a universal common sense. It means different things to different people. Some cultures have considered cannibalism to be ok by common sense. Others think killing Jews was ok by common sense. Today, our society thinks killing babies is ok by common sense.
Without a central, objective morality, you have no morality other than your own opinion. It's worth nothing more than anyone else's. So your answer is that you just think it was bad? Ok. So what?
God judged a man for directly disobeying his command.
The problem is, there is no such thing as a universal common sense. It means different things to different people. Some cultures have considered cannibalism to be ok by common sense. Others think killing Jews was ok by common sense. Today, our society thinks killing babies is ok by common sense.
Without a central, objective morality, you have no morality other than your own opinion. It's worth nothing more than anyone else's. So your answer is that you just think it was bad? Ok. So what?
God judged a man for directly disobeying his command.
God judged a man for directly disobeying his command.
Actually, per the Bible, the Bible god judged a man by, knowing 100% certain that he would eat of it, placed this tree in the Garden. Then, he punished him for it. Is this the action of a "just" god?
God judged a man for directly disobeying his command.
This is quite indefensible. Man had just been created and there were no school systems, no knowledge, no understanding of right or wrong behavior . . . Man was an "infant Spirit" . . . a blank slate just like a new child finding its way in the world. Until the act . . . there was no knowledge of Good or Evil . . . so how could he be judged? It is a silly idea. It was our first spiritual LESSON of many to come . . . and the most important one . . . knowledge of Good and Evil. It was the beginning of our species long and arduous journey to gain the ability to achieve Spiritual maturity and eternal life. Christ was the manifestation of our species readiness to do so . . . "the fields were ripe for the harvest."
Mystic is right. The story taken as anything like fact, would be an appalling stitch -up which could (as the Dark Matter you -tube pointed out) have easily been prevented if God had really wanted to and only made sense if God had fully intended man to Fall so that the world would not be a mile deep in people (and animals, who apparently also got blamed for the disobedience) who had never died.
To argue that man was somehow at fault and we all deserve punishment from birth (though that doctrine was too appalling so very young kids have been made exempt from hellfire through PR revision of Bible -based doctrine) is so clearly at variance with what we regard as fair or just that excuses or evasions have to be made or the bullet bitten and it stoutly declared that God can do whatever he likes. Which still doesn't make it justice. And makes man -made morality better than God's.
Actually, per the Bible, the Bible god judged a man by, knowing 100% certain that he would eat of it, placed this tree in the Garden. Then, he punished him for it. Is this the action of a "just" god?
That was a set up.
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