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Not genocide. It was justice. The nation was guilty.
Are you saying that every single person in that nation was guilty? Nations are never guilty...Only people can be guilty....It was genocide, and not the only genocide that your god was guilty of....If the myths you believe were true, then the great flood would be unsurpassed....Your god is a monster who if he were real, today would be executed.
For starters, child sacrifice. And worship of false Gods.
Well I'm not a believer in child sacrifice, but I do understand that in ancient times it was part of the ritual that some nations practice as part of their religion, but at the same time that does not say that their belief or religion was wrong and it was after all, their God that commanded such practice. So now we're at a point to where who is right and who was wrong, the nation that practiced child sacrificed as part of their religion or the nation who opposed it because their God told them to be. Here's the conundrum, what gives one nation the right to tell another how to worship and practiced their religion, even though it is as disagreeable as child sacrifice? So... The nation that disagrees is being told by their God to commit genocide because of the other nations religious practices...... Interesting...... I would think one is just as bad as the other....... Either way you're taking a human life and all human life is sacred.
And this is why I could never believe in the Christian God, it has no respect for human or animal life.
Well I'm not a believer in child sacrifice, but I do understand that in ancient times it was part of the ritual that some nations practice as part of their religion, but at the same time that does not say that their belief or religion was wrong and it was after all, their God that commanded such practice.
Aren't you one of the people that have claimed slavery was wrong? You're willing to give child sacrifice a pass, but slavery? Correct me if I'm wrong--maybe you never actually said that.
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So now we're had a point to where who is right and who was wrong, the nation that practiced child sacrificed as part of their religion or the nation who are opposed it because their God told them to be. Here's the conundrum, what gives one nation the right to tell another how to worship and practiced their religion, even though it is as disagreeable as child sacrifice? So... The nation that disagrees is being told by their God to commit genocide because of the other nations religious practices......
No...the nation that opposes it is told to execute judgment on the other nation because such an act is detestable.
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Interesting...... I would think one is just as bad as the other....... Either way you're taking a human life and all human life is sacred.
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I'm flabbergasted that you apparently think child sacrifice is ok--as long as it's a religious practice. Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding you. I hope so, at least.
Aren't you one of the people that have claimed slavery was wrong? You're willing to give child sacrifice a pass, but slavery? Correct me if I'm wrong--maybe you never actually said that.
No...the nation that opposes it is told to execute judgment on the other nation because such an act is detestable.
I'm flabbergasted that you apparently think child sacrifice is ok--as long as it's a religious practice. Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding you. I hope so, at least.
I think you completely misunderstand my statement. My point being, I am in no position nor is anyone else, in telling another nation how to worship their God regardless of how much I disagree with it. These God's, and I use it pluraly are a little to bloodthirsty for my liking. Slavery and child sacrificed have nothing in common so don't try to pull that old trick, yes, I do not believe in slavery, but I do not believe in child sacrificed and this is my own personal opinion and beliefs and I would never have anything to do with any religion or belief that has anything to do with child sacrifice. But that's not my religion or belief and I am in no way going to exterminate a whole race of people because of their belief.
To do so would makes me just as bad as them and I will not stoop to that level.
I think you completely misunderstand my statement. My point being, I am in no position nor is anyone else, in telling another nation how to worship their God regardless of how much I disagree with it. These God's, and I use it pluraly are a little to bloodthirsty for my liking. Slavery and child sacrificed have nothing in common so don't try to pull that old trick, yes, I do not believe in slavery, but I do not believe in child sacrificed and this is my own personal opinion and beliefs and I would never have anything to do with any religion or belief that has anything to do with child sacrifice. But that's not my religion or belief and I am in no way going to exterminate a whole race of people because of their belief.
To do so would makes me just as bad as them and I will not stoop to that level.
I'm pretty sure I've seen you rant against the Spanish missionaries that converted some Native Americans. So...apparently you do like to tell people how to practice their religion.
I'm pretty sure I've seen you rant against the Spanish missionaries that converted some Native Americans. So...apparently you do like to tell people how to practice their religion.
But we're getting a bit off topic now.
You know that's funny, I don't rant against anybody, wish I had spoken out against the Christian Spanish missionaries and the atrocities that they perpetrated against the native people of this land, all in the name of your Christian God... But then again this is not a subject for this thread.
My problem: the people who make the above argument, that we shouldn't expect God to just reveal his existence to us because that would remove the need for faith:
Yet they immediately jump on any possible good fortune as evidence of God. This demonstrates that the "God is hiding" excuse is a petty rationalization that religious people abandon at the first possible instant whenever anything evenly remotely indicating God's presence (ie. Shroud of Turin) comes their way. Then, when not discussing these supposedly miraculous events, they come back to claiming that God is hiding his presence. WTF?
To those who look at the above and claim "oh, God is just leaving clues for his existence", I respond "for what purpose?" To test your deductive skills? A very crappy test, then, given that atheists tend to be more intelligent that religious people by a multitude of reputable studies; the questionably accurate, man-made SAT is orders of magnitude better designed than God's silly exams. To test your faith? It does precisely the opposite to add more evidence into the fold, since faith is predicated on a lack of evidence.
They admit that belief in God requires faith. Faith is by definition the suspension of critical thinking skills to believe in something in the absence of sufficient evidence. I can have all the faith I want that I cannot be killed by a car - this does not mean that I can jump headlong into a steam roller and not die. And for all of your faith in your religion, there are billions of others with just as much faith in other entirely incompatible religious dogmas. That your brain strongly believes in your particular faith has no relevance to whether or not it is actually true.
You know that's funny, I don't rant against anybody, wish I had spoken out against the Christian Spanish missionaries and the atrocities that they perpetrated against the native people of this land, all in the name of your Christian God... But then again this is not a subject for this thread.
They were just practicing their religion, weren't they? Mind you--I'm not defending what the white men have done against Native Americans...but using your logic, it shouldn't be condemned.
They were just practicing their religion, weren't they? Mind you--I'm not defending what the white men have done against Native Americans...but using your logic, it shouldn't be condemned.
They were not practicing their religion, they were practicing genocide on the people that already had a spiritual belief and because it did not agree with theirs, they were considered savages and were treated worse than dogs. That's not good Christian religion, that's good Christian extermination. Believe as I do or we will terminate you... good Christian words for the time.
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