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Old 11-26-2009, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You mean this? It seems to be a pretty general edict against grave robbers. I certainly don't see Jesus mentioned.

Edict of Caesar:
It satisfies me that the graves and tombs
[that] whoever, for the cult worship of ancestors,
makes, or [for the cult worship] of children or household members,
that those [graves and tombs] remain unmoved
throughout their existence. And if anyone charges that
anyone has either destroyed them, or in some other
way made off with what was buried in them, or to another
place with knavish malice
took [these things], for the purpose of doing injury to
the buried, or [had] the doorstone or
[other] stones switched, against that
man [who is accused] I order that a trial
occur, just like [a trial] concerning the [cult worship of] gods,
for the cult worship of men.
For it shall be much more necessary
to honor the buried:
[so] let no one at all move them.
Otherwise, that man I
want condemned to death for the charge
of digging through tombs
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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You mean this? It seems to be a pretty general edict against grave robbers. I certainly don't see Jesus mentioned.

Edict of Caesar:
It satisfies me that the graves and tombs
[that] whoever, for the cult worship of ancestors,
makes, or [for the cult worship] of children or household members,
that those [graves and tombs] remain unmoved
throughout their existence. And if anyone charges that
anyone has either destroyed them, or in some other
way made off with what was buried in them, or to another
place with knavish malice
took [these things], for the purpose of doing injury to
the buried, or [had] the doorstone or
[other] stones switched, against that
man [who is accused] I order that a trial
occur, just like [a trial] concerning the [cult worship of] gods,
for the cult worship of men.
For it shall be much more necessary
to honor the buried:
[so] let no one at all move them.
Otherwise, that man I
want condemned to death for the charge
of digging through tombs

No need to mention Jesus name, the edit was constructed to cover the present situation and any future ones. You can search for holes all you like, doubt and criticise all you wish, this stuff is not for you, its for me. I am sharing why I am convinced and showing its an accepted lie that there is no proof.

Theres plenty of proof, and I am going to show plenty of it.

Peace.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Now Christ himself left very little material evidence concerning his earthly life, and critics are quick to grab at this, which is why I am showing you how to prove Christ in so many ways. I notice someonelse has already went through the Roman historians who are evidence, Tacitus, Josephus, Celsus, Lucian the Cynic and Pliny the Younger all mention Christ and Christians in their writings. The list posted by someonelse I read earlier this thread I thought was sufficent, so I won't go into them. But they are real and relevant testimonies in history.

Peace.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Well bring it...I'm ready to refute it.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Well bring it...I'm ready to refute it.

Why don't you refute one by one those I have already given, give us that extensive list, catch up with me, then refute each future one.

I am requesting that you do that, if you can, your behind.

Peace.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Jesus once stated that it was better for those who offended children, that a " millstone" were hanged around their neck and they were drowned, than to mess with children, Matt. 18:1-6. Can this statement be given historical validity? Yes it can. Archaeologist have unearthed these Millstones from Jesus time. They are real, they existed. And some of them are quite big. And when you go after the proof of Christ, leave no " Millstone" unturned.

Pun intended.

Peace.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I will only refute those things that you claim are proof that Jesus existed. Let's begin with the so called Nazareth stone...
The most extreme possible dates of the inscription, based on the style of lettering, are 50 B.C. to A.D. 50. He thinks it most likely in the middle, thus around the turn of the era, long before the death of Jesus. It was found in the collection of a man named Fröhner when it was donated to the Paris National Library in 1925. His notes on the item state nothing more than "Dalle de marbre envoyée de Nazareth en 1878. ("Slab of marble sent from Nazareth in 1878.") He does not say it was found in Nazareth, but merely sent from there. In the late 19th century there were only two major market centers for all antiquities recovered in Palestine: Jerusalem and Nazareth. The slab was most likely recovered either in Samaria or Decapolis and either purchased in or shipped out of the nearest possible place, which would be Nazareth.

This marble slab provides no evidence for Christianity or its claim of an empty tomb. It contains no new or unusual laws regarding grave robbing, the decree itself is not unique, and it has no references or direct links to Christianity of any kind. Moreover, it's date is most likely pre-Christian, its origin is not likely to be Nazareth, and its contents are not explainable even as a muddled imperial reaction to the theft of Jesus' body. To tie this to Christianity requires piling dozens of conjectures onto scores of speculations, and the rejection of a good supply of contrary indications and evidence.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Jesus once stated that it was better for those who offended children, that a " millstone" were hanged around their neck and they were drowned, than to mess with children, Matt. 18:1-6. Can this statement be given historical validity? Yes it can. Archaeologist have unearthed these Millstones from Jesus time. They are real, they existed. And some of them are quite big. And when you go after the proof of Christ, leave no " Millstone" unturned.

Pun intended.

Peace.
Nothing to refute here. I accept that people ground grain at that time in history, so of course there were mill stones, and I'm not surprised that criminals would be drowned. I doubt it they would waste a good mill stone for that reason though...I imagine they were not easy to come by.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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I will only refute those things that you claim are proof that Jesus existed. .

I am claiming that everything I have posted on this thread is proof of Jesus, and for the second time I am asking you to refute each one.

Peace.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I am claiming that everything I have posted on this thread is proof of Jesus, and for the second time I am asking you to refute each one.

Peace.
Fail....Most of the posts you have made are in support of the bible, not Jesus, but I'll back track and see if I can find anything.
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