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Old 09-06-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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But It DID happen........Otherwise, we would not be here.

It requires a substance called a catalyst. I posted an explanation of this over on one of the science forums and got nothing but nasty responses from the pseudo-scientists who frequent that section. It may be that the concepts are just too difficult for those without some minimal scientific background to understand.

Yes, carbon by itself is an inactive ....in chains it is organic
hydrogen alone is a gas, so is oxygen....combine the two, you have a substance called WATER that is a liquid.

That is how chemicals work. And no, it does not prove , or even suggest that there is a god, just that there are reactions of molecules that some people do not understand.

 
Old 09-07-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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Here's your problem, you can run but you can't hide from the fact, with emphasis on the fact, that all life as we know it is based upon these 6 basic chemical elements, that these elements vary existence are the result of the process of nuclear fusion created by stars.
My challenge still stands. Please make life for me. Get yourself some of those chemicals and have at it.
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As for your statement that even the simplest life so not a. coming from these chemicals elements and b. that this has never been observed is so fundamentally false as to only rate abject derision. We can chemically break down every living species on the planet and all we would be left with are six basic chemical elements. We can even go further by referencing the 60 year old experiments of Stanley Miller and Harold Urey which conclusively demonstrated that the most basic building blocks for all of life, amino acids, can repeatably created in a laboratory by combining these basic chemical elements while replicating early earth conditions.
So get yourself some of those chemicals and make it happen.

It's never been done before.
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Those are simply indisputable facts.

Not that I didn't say undeniable because any fool can deny that which is plain to see as the nose on their face.
Or any fool can believe what their junior high science teacher told them without stopping to verify it.
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