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Cleatus,
I would think it's pretty much certain that your god will forgive you, after all, doesn't he forgive everything as long as you believe in him? Seems to me like you chaps get a pretty good deal from your 'saviour'. Commit any crime you want and get forgiven!![/quot
People in the UK get the same deal that we do from God if they are believers..Committing any crime we want just to get forgiveness is testing God..Forgiveness comes from sorrow, shame and acknowledgment, and repentance of your crime..You will never make a deal with God..only a true relationship
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When the Ten Commandments teach us not to kill, it actually means not to murder, and murder is normally associated with premeditated actions with intent to gain from the death of the deceased. I know I have killed men in combat. In addition, I am directly responsible for the deaths of three men when I was in law enforcement. I know God holds me blameless.
Killing a man who has violated the sanctity of you home is justifiable under almost all state laws. The fact that you were not prosecuted reveals the state believed your actions were legally justifiable, and you did not commit murder or a lesser offense such as manslaughter.
I feel bad the kid is dead. I feel even worse that he put you in the emotional position you now find yourself, but in the depths of fear, anger, and heightened adrenaline flow, we all defend our lives and ask questions later. It is impossible for me to believe the dead intruder did not consider he might be shot when he entered your home.
Without going into details, I can only tell you the memory of Poly Klass and all of the tragic events surrounding her abduction, rape, and murder haunt me to this day, and I assure you that any uninvited stranger who enters my home in the night with criminal intent will probably be carried out by the coroner.
Hi Cletus.
Avery sad thing to happen to both of you and also your family, it is obviously bothering you.
All I can say is to people is: "JUDGE NOT LEST THOU BE JUDGED" I don't believe that God Judges anyone, so God has nothing to forgive. It's YOU who must forgive yourself my friend and come to terms with it. Like others have said, whats done is done, and you cannot change whats happened.
In this country it is illegal to attack an intruder who is running away from you, so here you would have been jailed for Murder, the way the law looks at it here is, they are no longer a threat to you if they are going away from you. I have never been in your situation so I cannot say what I would do and nobody else can either. I wish you and your family well, and for the sake of you all, put it behind you.
A long time ago some one broke in my house when me and my wife were in the other room. I grabbed my shotgun and killed him stone dead. I could have runned him off but I killed the man. Will I be forgivin? He was unarmed and tryed to get away I was scared for my wife and family.
good ta meet you all I am new hear.
There are a lot of variables; IMO It depends on what you believe in first of all.
Thankfully, the God believers here are an ever decreasing minority.
I wouldn't speak so soon; Chap;
just because we may be on another forum; doesn't imply that we are "out of sight ; out of mind". All of us may not necessarily camp out here; but the Holy Spirit does. He's Omnipresent; Omnipotent; Omniscient>
God Bless You
I knew the guy would not harm us he was young and runnin toward the front door. He was screaming for me not to shoot.
I feel terrible about the insident I really do. I took a life.
And therein, my dear cletus, June tells you that you have given yourself away. You see, you cannot on the one hand, tell us that you shot the kid in cold blood, in the back, as he was running for the door, screaming for you not to shoot him, and then turn around a tell us that you feel true remorse. I've worked with incarcerated populations. I know how it works, and from what you are telling us, it doesn't work that way.
QUOTE=june 7th;2018024]And therein, my dear cletus, June tells you that you have given yourself away. You see, you cannot on the one hand, tell us that you shot the kid in cold blood, in the back, as he was running for the door, screaming for you not to shoot him, and then turn around a tell us that you feel true remorse. I've worked with incarcerated populations. I know how it works, and from what you are telling us, it doesn't work that way.
And I know you know that.
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Even though we disagree about our beliefs June;
This is my observation also; actually when I first read the OP
God Bless
And therein, my dear cletus, June tells you that you have given yourself away. You see, you cannot on the one hand, tell us that you shot the kid in cold blood, in the back, as he was running for the door, screaming for you not to shoot him, and then turn around a tell us that you feel true remorse. I've worked with incarcerated populations. I know how it works, and from what you are telling us, it doesn't work that way.
And I know you know that.
I concur with with your analogy also
June.
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Hi Cletus
