12 Points of an atheist's logic that defeats the Christian Theology! (Harry Potter, Revelation)
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This is an example of the bare assertion fallacy. Since your initial premise is fallacious, points 2 through 10 become invalid.
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
2. God's existence can't be scientificaly proven just as it can't be proven that He dosn't exist.
It cannot be scientifically proven that one of my socks lost in the dryer isn't currently resting on the surface of Mars, either, so I suppose that's where my sock must be. Or ... see "Russell's teapot" for a more in-depth refutation.
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3. The men who saw the resurrected Christ willingly went to their deaths rather than deny their savior.
The men and women in the Heaven's Gate cult who saw the Hale-Bopp comet willingly committed suicide in pursuit of their beliefs. Ergo, the "comet empire" must be true.
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
4. How can you "test" miracles that occured 2000 years ago?
You can't, which is where faith comes into play. I just don't see any more reason to believe one "miracle" over another - so I would also have to believe that Quetzacoatl eats the sun during every solar eclipse.
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5. Jesus is not here today in human flesh to replicate His miracles for the entertainment of sceptical scientists.
Neither is Quetzacoatl.
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7. Which science do you hold in such high regard? The science of today? The science of 100 years ago when religious sceptics were in such vogue? 300 years ago? They are all different and each has been or will be proven imperfect. God's truth is unchangeable and eternal.
So we should just throw away science because it isn't always correct? As for God's truth being unchangeable, why don't you ask the Council of Nicea if that's altogether true.
False. But it is far from the first time you have simply made stuff up.
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Originally Posted by SuperSoul
There is nothing that you can point to and say it is ACTUALLY objectively 100% true
Nor has anything I have written EVER suggested or even implied I can. So I am not sure why you are replying to me because what you are saying does not reply to a thing I have ever written.
If I was the OP's age, I could think of a million things I could be doing than wasting my retirement spreading hatred. You can preach all day long about the ills of Christianity. But at the end of the day, your a hypocrite when all you do is the same thing and sit back and contribute zero to humanity.
You edited your post 4 times, so I ended up replying to all 4.
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An old man should be doing much more valuable things with his remaining time on this Earth than yet again trying to debunk Christianity (which will never happen).
There is nothing to debunk. To debunk something then first something has to be provided TO debunk. The idea there is a god or a living Jesus are assertions based on nothing. How can one "debunk" baseless assertion?
Who are you to decide what someone "should" or should not be doing with their own time however? What standard are you using here? Who made you the judge? What someone decides to do with their own time... or what they value.... is their choice not yours.
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You can preach all day long about the ills of Christianity.
Thanks. We already do. Your permission was neither required nor sought.
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But at the end of the day, your a hypocrite when all you do is the same thing and sit back and contribute zero to humanity.
You do not know the people on this thread personally and what they do or do not contribute to humanity. Do not judge people on their forum presence alone. For us, if not you, our forum presence constitutes only a small portion of our lives. The rest of it, and what we do with it, is entirely unknown to you.
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If I was the OP's age, I could think of a million things I could be doing than wasting my retirement spreading hatred.
Then do them. What the OP does with his time is his own business. What you do with yours... is yours.
But do not make the (wilful and misleading) mistake of spreading disagreement with an idea as "spreading hatred". You are too keen to call things "hatred" just because you do not like them.
Wow. Stalking my post much? Lmao. This is why I can't with you people. Your a little too extra. BTW, my reasons for saying what I did are completely valid and I don't need to explain anything to you. Your a newbie. I've been on this forum for 5 years and knew the OP for just as long. He's been posting these ridiculous threads against Christianity since I can remember and I can't imagine what his mental and health state are in. The point is, I wouldn't be spending my senior years on a internet forum railing against religion or a religion I don't believe in merely for a sounding board. Most seniors spend time with their families or take walks at the park. I think it's really astonishing and worrying that in 2013, he is still up to his old tactics. I don't think he understands that there are more than 2 billion of us on this planet. We're not going anywhere and neither is Christianity.
That is rather hypocritical of you...I can't even count the number of posts you have made wishing non believers ill will, and your brand of Christianity is doomed to fade away...I know you dislike facts, but here they are anyway.
The latest Pew Research, "Nones on the Rise," which shows a "steep decline" in the number of Americans who self-identify as Protestant, coupled with a "significant jump" in the number of those who now claim "no religion."
Generally I agree with this -- well, except for, perhaps, the last part.
But the key to hope is that there has to be a chance for that hope to be fulfilled. After all, I don't waste time hoping that I'll live forever.
It takes a certain mindset to believe in something so stridently without any initial reason to do so. Atheists and religion-atheists really don't have that particular mindset. We tend to be far more cerebral than most and there's nothing we can really do about it -- assuming we would even want to.
Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your view) none of us can really choose what to believe in. The incentive for a belief either exists or it doesn't. For atheists, that incentive just isn't there. As a result, we don't feel that there is a chance of any hope derived from religious belief to actually come to fruition.
I guess we have to content ourselves with Prozac and media addiction.
To each his own.
If you feel happy with the many side effects of mind-altering drugs and being addicted to illusional media, then so be it... until you realize and pursue something more functional.
Saying "there are no absolutes" establishes your first absolute.
Yes, it would!
The difference is I understand that I'm not all-knowing, that I see things subjectively, limited - illusional.
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