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Old 10-12-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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You believe in folklore. There is a reason why a biblical generation is 40 years. Longevity was an outlier and by no means 900 or even 120 years.

Even your OP with the sons of Noah being ~100 by the time the flood came would mean that their wives were past the menopause age (if it were true) Women only have a finite amount of ovum which run out at age 50 or so.
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Most people who believe in god do not believe as you do....Only the fundamentalist bible literalistic folks do, and they are relatively few.
What's more impossible - to live on the earth 900 years, or to rise from the dead? I believe in both.

No way to prove for sure one way or the other. God says it in His Word, and I believe it. That's all I can offer.

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Old 10-12-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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What's more impossible - to live on the earth 900 years, or to rise from the dead? I believe in both.

No way to prove for sure one way or the other. God says it in His Word, and I believe it. That's all I can offer.
Logic and reason say that both are equally impossible....Oh I forgot that reason is not used by bible literalists.

The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.....Benjamin Franklin
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:40 PM
 
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What's more impossible - to live on the earth 900 years, or to rise from the dead? I believe in both.

No way to prove for sure one way or the other. God says it in His Word, and I believe it. That's all I can offer.
And, that's a pretty weak offering, referencing an ancient text that was written by multiple ignorant men. Without any evidence, what you say is simply fantasy.
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Old 10-13-2013, 02:12 AM
 
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Even if everything on this planet where 100% pure and without disease the very act of being alive takes a toll on the system.
But yet, your Science holds that ionized particles of matter evolved into our living earth including the human body by mere random occurrences in nature, but that same Science claims the laws of nature prove "biological immortality" prevents the ability of the human body to live a 1000 years.
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Biological immortality

Most jellyfish species have a relatively fixed life span, which varies by species from hours to many months (long-lived mature jellyfish spawn every day or night; the time is also fairly fixed and species-specific). The medusa of Turritopsis nutricula is the only form known to have developed the ability to return to a polyp state, by a specific transformation process that requires the presence of certain cell types (tissue from both the jellyfish bell surface and the circulatory canal system). Careful laboratory experiments have revealed that all stages of the medusae, from newly released to fully mature individuals, can transform back into polyps. The transforming medusa is characterized first by deterioration of the bell and tentacles, with subsequent growth of a perisarc sheet and stolons, and finally feeding polyps. Polyps further multiply by growing additional stolons, branches and then polyps, to form colonial hydroids. This ability to reverse the life cycle (in response to adverse conditions) is probably unique in the animal kingdom, and allows the jellyfish to bypass death, rendering Turritopsis nutricula potentially biologically immortal. Studies in the laboratory showed that 100% of specimens could revert to the polyp stage, but so far the process has not been observed in nature, in part because the process is quite rapid and field observations at the right moment in time are unlikely. In spite of this remarkable ability, most Turritopsis medusae are likely to fall victim to the general hazards of life as plankton, including being eaten by other animals, or succumbing to disease
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Your holy book doesn't trump the science of biology
It is interesting that both Religion and Science hold the principles that
1) there was a beginning of the universe
2) originated from a single set of procreators
3) that all things are possible.

Think the Holy Word not only trumped, but declared Big Gin.
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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But yet, your Science holds that ionized particles of matter evolved into our living earth including the human body by mere random occurrences in nature, but that same Science claims the laws of nature prove "biological immortality" prevents the ability of the human body to live a 1000 years.
__________________________________________________ _____________
Biological immortality

Most jellyfish species have a relatively fixed life span, which varies by species from hours to many months (long-lived mature jellyfish spawn every day or night; the time is also fairly fixed and species-specific). The medusa of Turritopsis nutricula is the only form known to have developed the ability to return to a polyp state, by a specific transformation process that requires the presence of certain cell types (tissue from both the jellyfish bell surface and the circulatory canal system). Careful laboratory experiments have revealed that all stages of the medusae, from newly released to fully mature individuals, can transform back into polyps. The transforming medusa is characterized first by deterioration of the bell and tentacles, with subsequent growth of a perisarc sheet and stolons, and finally feeding polyps. Polyps further multiply by growing additional stolons, branches and then polyps, to form colonial hydroids. This ability to reverse the life cycle (in response to adverse conditions) is probably unique in the animal kingdom, and allows the jellyfish to bypass death, rendering Turritopsis nutricula potentially biologically immortal. Studies in the laboratory showed that 100% of specimens could revert to the polyp stage, but so far the process has not been observed in nature, in part because the process is quite rapid and field observations at the right moment in time are unlikely. In spite of this remarkable ability, most Turritopsis medusae are likely to fall victim to the general hazards of life as plankton, including being eaten by other animals, or succumbing to disease
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It is interesting that both Religion and Science hold the principles that
1) there was a beginning of the universe
2) originated from a single set of procreators
3) that all things are possible.

Think the Holy Word not only trumped, but declared Big Gin.

You do realise there is a HUGE difference biologically between jellyfish and higher order animals.

And your three "parallel" items are also reflected is the writings of J.R.R Tolkien. Your point?
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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The atmosphere was 30% oxygen.

The foods were more pure.

No disease......infections.........illnesses......... ..not as we have now............no poor habits..........no processed foods........



And the Father had previously set no age limit to life.





Life on earth was not as you know it.


And you dont' get to pick and choose what to accept from the Book.
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Old 10-13-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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The atmosphere was 30% oxygen.

The foods were more pure.

No disease......infections.........illnesses......... ..not as we have now............no poor habits..........no processed foods........



And the Father had previously set no age limit to life.





Life on earth was not as you know it.


And you dont' get to pick and choose what to accept from the Book.
Take a class in basic biology and you'll see why none of the above matter.

We would have to be totally different physiologically to even live lifespans of the longest lived mammals like the tortoise. Again you're putting aside all logic to make the tall tales in the Bible possible. THEY ARE PARABLES AND ALLEGORY NOT FACTUAL EVENTS.
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Old 10-13-2013, 03:35 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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The atmosphere was 30% oxygen.
And even higher.

Now look how many millions of years ago... Over 100 million years ago.



That's a bit before your time if you base it on the Bible of 6000 years ago.

Is in science wonderful.

And isn't the Scriptures you believe in out there along with things like Grimm brothers stories and Mother Goose?

If you're not, why are they telling stories that just are unbelievable?
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Old 10-13-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Take a class in basic biology and you'll see why none of the above matter.

We would have to be totally different physiologically to even live lifespans of the longest lived mammals like the tortoise. Again you're putting aside all logic to make the tall tales in the Bible possible. THEY ARE PARABLES AND ALLEGORY NOT FACTUAL EVENTS.
Correction* I'm meant animals not just strictly mammals. As a wise contributor pointed out to me that the tortoise is not a mammal.
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Old 10-13-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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Logic and reason say that both are equally impossible....Oh I forgot that reason is not used by bible literalists.

The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.....Benjamin Franklin
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And, that's a pretty weak offering, referencing an ancient text that was written by multiple ignorant men. Without any evidence, what you say is simply fantasy.
Christianity is based on faith and truth - and not reason.

You guys will believe historians who write history books even though you were not present. The Bible is written proof. One you believe. One you don't. Your choice.
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