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guess it would more of a debate, who turned them into gay haters first. The brits when the colonized it and enacted their own laws down there against gays. Or the American Evangelical Christians, via the big mouth pastors and american church money. Think the Brits should share some of the blame too.
It is not the brits who have been lobbying for severe penalties for gays.
yes, Im quite aware of that ;-)
My point was there was already a tradition of hating gays down long before the dumb pastors went down there and advocated for their deaths. BTW...why arent these pastors being brought up on charges here in the states for this?
yes, Im quite aware of that ;-)
My point was there was already a tradition of hating gays down long before the dumb pastors went down there and advocated for their deaths. BTW...why arent these pastors being brought up on charges here in the states for this?
I'm not aware that there actually was a legacy of hatred towards gays left by the brits...Do you have evidence of that or is it just your opinion?
Edit...I checked and found that you are correct... The homophobia recently demonstrated in Uganda and Malawi is a relic of their British colonial past. http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/th...british-malawi
If the Westboro bigots can't be prosecuted, then what charges could possibly be raised against those pastors in your country?
thats why I was asking and not demanding about charges being brought against them. To be more clear I was asking if there were any even international laws prohibiting them from promoting hate crimes in another country;-)
thats why I was asking and not demanding about charges being brought against them. To be more clear I was asking if there were any even international laws prohibiting them from promoting hate crimes in another country;-)
guess it would more of a debate, who turned them into gay haters first.
I don't think you are giving enough credit to the people of Uganda.
I think they have enough sense to disregard what other countries tell them to believe. They have a very old civilization and I bet they believe what they want to believe.
Thats all I have a problem with, I dont wanna be thrown in the bucket with these folks, neither do I want
the name of America just because of a few zealots who would sell their mothers soul for a dollar.
Im going to make sure my dollar doesnt go toward that kind of stuff.
Seems like lately, you cant turn on the news and see Christian beliefs mocked or attacked. I took it as another attack rather read the whole thing. sorry
Glad to take the time to read the whole thing. I happened upon an interview with the film makers on NPR and they were very, very clear about the good works that have been done for years by that Christian missionaries from the States and elsewhere. The situation is an aberration and a deadly one which is what makes the film so compelling.
If you want to believe that every evil thing in the world is because of America, go right ahead.
Then, a very appropriate response here...
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Where did the poster say anything at all like that?
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To be honest, the article was kind of unclear what it's even about--other than that Evangelicals are apparently bad for Uganda because *gasp* they think homosexuality is bad!
Oh! I see! And your other-than-personal opinion on the private choices of others here?
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I'm surprised you know nothing about the Ugandan "Kill the gays" bill and how it originated.
While this is just a wikipedia article, it will give you a starting place to educate yourself on the basics.
You are hoping for quite a lot with this poster, Jaymax; many are known here to be pretty intransigent regarding anything other than outright knee-jerk Christian fundamentalism!
You are hoping for quite a lot with this poster, Jaymax; many are known here to be pretty intransigent regarding anything other than outright knee-jerk Christian fundamentalism!
Bible says, Acolyte does!
What is the point of your post, Rifleman?
If the people of Uganda are against gay people, so what?
If you want to believe that every evil thing in the world is because of America, go right ahead.
It's obvious! It was your all-encompassing anti-American post comment, above, and Jaymax's appropriate response.
But again... where did anyone make such a grandiloquent encompassment about beliefs, pray tell?
Just reigning you in a bit, where it seemed so v. necessary.
"every evil thing"??? I have to repeat it to remind myself what actually might be wrong with so very many mainstream Christian citizens' beliefs!
(See? I can do it too!)
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Huh?
