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Old 10-16-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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First off, you have to prove hell exists. It does not. Hell is a mistranslation of 4 words.
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You seem to have an unhealthy interest in something you believe to be an illusion.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:45 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Well.....my choice-less, free will friends. After reading most of the responses, I find it comical, that pretty much, you all have exercised your free will.
Prove it was free will and not pre determined by god. Certainly he has the power to make humans do whatever he wants them to do.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Redding, Ca
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Prove it was free will and not pre determined by god. Certainly he has the power to make humans do whatever he wants them to do.
Of course He has the power as creator to make any human change its mind. Saul of Tarsus was one.
Abraham was another.

God uses events and conditions to steer and individual or nation collectively to the direction He desires.

He did it with the nation of Israel by hardening their hearts vis spiritual blindness. He hardened Pharaohs heart towards Moses.

One has to understand that the Creator is in control of a people run a muck due to our ability to judge between what is good and evil.

He understood the consequences of His creation and implemented safe guards to save that which He lost in the creation.
That information is given to us all in the form of letters, written in our own languages, with our own ability to understand with the help of His Spirit.

Now.....as a matter of choice, given to the gods, we can choose to believe it.....or not.

That, friends is your wills choice.

But in the end..........believe it or not.......your soul has been purchased and will be set free, if not sooner.

Blessings, AJ
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:57 AM
 
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You people make me laugh. Atheist - like other liberals - will literally find anyone or anything to point the blame at for their own choices. Pathetic.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Yes, we have a free will. We can reject Christ and live with the consequence of God's justice. Or, we can choose to accept him and have eternal life in God's love. Your choice.
The point I was trying to make is that if god is actually omniscient and literally KNOWS ALL, then god knows--before each of us is even born--who will be saved and who will be damned.

Either that, or god is not at all omniscient.

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You people make me laugh. Atheist - like other liberals - will literally find anyone or anything to point the blame at for their own choices. Pathetic.
Funny...people who don't believe in invisible supernatural beings are actually responsible for their own ups and downs and their own actions. They don't have the luxury of falling back on imaginary friends to praise or blame for things.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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Funny...people who don't believe in invisible supernatural beings are actually responsible for their own ups and downs and their own actions. They don't have the luxury of falling back on imaginary friends to praise or blame for things.
Yeah right. You love blaming this "imaginary" God when it's convenient for you.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Yeah right. You love blaming this "imaginary" God when it's convenient for you.
Umm...you seem to suffer either a serious deficit in reading comprehension, or have a disconnect from reality here.

I don't believe in gods, therefore I don't "blame" gods for anything.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Yeah right. You love blaming this "imaginary" God when it's convenient for you.
Are you actually accusing atheists of blaming god for something? You may want to rethink this position.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You can't make this stuff up, folks.

Don't forget to tip your waitress!
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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You seem to have an unhealthy interest in something you believe to be an illusion.
Seriously? Then you have an unhealthy interest in it by virtue of commenting on his unhealthy interest.

Come one, we're responding to a sub-discussion here on eternal punishment. If you can't address the actual points people make, and can only make ad hominem attacks, then what is the point of replying?
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