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There are exceptions, but I think the RCC takes baby steps if they are ever heading in that direction at all. Step 1 would be actually ordaining women to the priesthood, would it not? I have my doubts that any such thing is ever likely to happen and I'll believe it when I see it. But if the RCC does choose to head in that direction, I expect they'll test the waters on a much smaller scale. I would expect that it would be in just one region and women would only be ordained deacons, then they'd take it from there.
I do think that the driving force behind such a move would be the current dwindling numbers of priests in the RCC. In all honesty, I think the RCC gives up the requirement of celibacy -- something that actually has historical basis within the Church -- first. That failing, we may see women priests someday. It will certainly be interesting to watch!
The most immediate beneficiaries of this news will be the late night talk show comedians. I can imagine an array of jokes about the first lady Cardinal having to serve coffee to the men, about some sort of Cardinal beauty pageant as the selection process, about the first Popette, about designer vestments and sacred accessories, the Conan O'Brien staff is probably at work creating such a picture even as I type.
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There are exceptions, but I think the RCC takes baby steps if they are ever heading in that direction at all. Step 1 would be actually ordaining women to the priesthood, would it not? I have my doubts that any such thing is ever likely to happen and I'll believe it when I see it. But if the RCC does choose to head in that direction, I expect they'll test the waters on a much smaller scale. I would expect that it would be in just one region and women would only be ordained deacons, then they'd take it from there.
I do think that the driving force behind such a move would be the current dwindling numbers of priests in the RCC. In all honesty, I think the RCC gives up the requirement of celibacy -- something that actually has historical basis within the Church -- first. That failing, we may see women priests someday. It will certainly be interesting to watch!
My understanding is that the Cardinals do not have to be invested priests, they can be deacons. Relatively easy for the pope to make that change. In fact the pope does set the canon law in any case.
This one seems to be fresh enough that he may actually make these kind of changes. I wonder if the other Cardinals had any idea what they're getting into the elected him.
There are exceptions, but I think the RCC takes baby steps if they are ever heading in that direction at all. Step 1 would be actually ordaining women to the priesthood, would it not? I have my doubts that any such thing is ever likely to happen and I'll believe it when I see it. But if the RCC does choose to head in that direction, I expect they'll test the waters on a much smaller scale. I would expect that it would be in just one region and women would only be ordained deacons, then they'd take it from there.
I do think that the driving force behind such a move would be the current dwindling numbers of priests in the RCC. In all honesty, I think the RCC gives up the requirement of celibacy -- something that actually has historical basis within the Church -- first. That failing, we may see women priests someday. It will certainly be interesting to watch!
Tell me, which kind of RCC deacon are you referring to?
My understanding is that the Cardinals do not have to be invested priests, they can be deacons. Relatively easy for the pope to make that change. In fact the pope does set the canon law in any case.
This one seems to be fresh enough that he may actually make these kind of changes. I wonder if the other Cardinals had any idea what they're getting into the elected him.
Currently, Cardinals do have to be either a priest or a bishop. Also, Cardinals are required to become bishops. You are correct though, anything can be changed. It appears the appointment of women Cardinals will be a two step process. First, the deacon ordination rule will be changed to allow women, that will open the door for women Cardinal appointment. The RCC has two kinds of deacons, permanent and transitional. I imagine this deals with permanent deacons.
It will be interesting to watch the events unfold. Many changes are afoot. The force driving them is straight out of The Bible.
My understanding is that the Cardinals do not have to be invested priests, they can be deacons. Relatively easy for the pope to make that change. In fact the pope does set the canon law in any case.
This one seems to be fresh enough that he may actually make these kind of changes. I wonder if the other Cardinals had any idea what they're getting into the elected him.
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My understanding is that traditionally a cardinal need not be a prelate (ordained). Later on, they had to become deacons and now bishops. But historically it was a civil honor bestowed by the pope.
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