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Old 11-14-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Personally I couldn't care less as long as they leave me and mine alone. And these days they don't. They are trying to ban any signs/symbols of religion entirely from all of the public sphere. Soon it will be illegal to wear a religious symbol around one's neck/on one's clothing. Or carry a book in public that has a title with any religious connotations. All because the atheists or someone else is offended. Well too bad. Waaaa. Religious people have just as many rights in this country as atheists so suck it up. Get over it. And don't give me that "Separation of Church and State" crap because it does NOT appear in the constitution. All it is, is contrived atheistic-liberal B.S.
You don't really sound as though you couldn't care less.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Personally I couldn't care less as long as they leave me and mine alone. And these days they don't. They are trying to ban any signs/symbols of religion entirely from all of the public sphere. Soon it will be illegal to wear a religious symbol around one's neck/on one's clothing. Or carry a book in public that has a title with any religious connotations. All because the atheists or someone else is offended. Well too bad. Waaaa. Religious people have just as many rights in this country as atheists so suck it up. Get over it. And don't give me that "Separation of Church and State" crap because it does NOT appear in the constitution. All it is, is contrived atheistic-liberal B.S.
Funny. In my 62 years sharing the planet, I've yet to have my first atheist knock on my door or otherwise attempt to get me to see their light.

Christians aplenty have though, of various stripes.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Personally I couldn't care less as long as they leave me and mine alone. And these days they don't. They are trying to ban any signs/symbols of religion entirely from all of the public sphere. Soon it will be illegal to wear a religious symbol around one's neck/on one's clothing. Or carry a book in public that has a title with any religious connotations. All because the atheists or someone else is offended. Well too bad. Waaaa. Religious people have just as many rights in this country as atheists so suck it up. Get over it. And don't give me that "Separation of Church and State" crap because it does NOT appear in the constitution. All it is, is contrived atheistic-liberal B.S.
Utter nonsense. Which is why can't provide a single cite or reference to any atheist trying to ban any signs/symbols of religion entirely from all of the publis sphere. You're either lying, or hopelessly confused (judging from your posts, I'm inclined to think profound ignorance is a more likely explanation than dishonesty in your case).

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The problem I see is that most of this country identifies as some type of religious adherent, while actual Atheists (not Agnostics and unaffiliated) are a tiny minority. The masses will naturally have a loud and obnoxious fringe just because it's hard to avoid nuts with a group that large. With actual Atheists being such a minority, one rude and outspoken Atheist is a much bigger representative than a similarly rude Theist.
Similarly, one respectful and polite atheist is a much bigger representative of his/her group than a similarly respectul theist. See how that works? (not that it matters - you are making a ridiculous and irrelevant point)
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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And don't give me that "Separation of Church and State" crap because it does NOT appear in the constitution. All it is, is contrived atheistic-liberal B.S.
Does that mean you think religious institutions should start paying taxes then?
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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Utter nonsense. Which is why can't provide a single cite or reference to any atheist trying to ban any signs/symbols of religion entirely from all of the publis sphere. You're either lying, or hopelessly confused (judging from your posts, I'm inclined to think profound ignorance is a more likely explanation than dishonesty in your case).


Hello! Today we explore yet another new word. Today's word is: disingenuous. OK everyone, let's all say it together: dis, in, gen, uous. It means to pretend to be innocent. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, disingenuous - definition of disingenuous by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


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Old 11-14-2013, 08:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Hello! Today we explore yet another new word. Today's word is: disingenuous. OK everyone, let's all say it together: dis, in, gen, uous. It means to pretend to be innocent. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, disingenuous - definition of disingenuous by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


Atheist's protest of holiday decorations forces Santa Monica to cancel Christmas | Mail Online

Judge Throws Out Atheists’ Lawsuit Against 9/11 Steel Cross — But Non-Believers Vow to Fight on | TheBlaze.com

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You may want to read again the post you quoted. That is not what he said didn't happen.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:52 PM
 
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Utter nonsense. Which is why can't provide a single cite or reference to any atheist trying to ban any signs/symbols of religion entirely from all of the public sphere. You're either lying, or hopelessly confused (judging from your posts, I'm inclined to think profound ignorance is a more likely explanation than dishonesty in your case).
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Hello! Today we explore yet another new word. Today's word is: disingenuous. OK everyone, let's all say it together: dis, in, gen, uous. It means to pretend to be innocent. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, disingenuous - definition of disingenuous by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Atheist's protest of holiday decorations forces Santa Monica to cancel Christmas | Mail Online

Judge Throws Out Atheists’ Lawsuit Against 9/11 Steel Cross — But Non-Believers Vow to Fight on | TheBlaze.com

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You may want to read again the post you quoted. That is not what he said didn't happen.
No need to read again because the "weasel words qualifier" in the bold qualifies under the rubric of "disingenuous" also. It pretends that the complaint is all-encompassing and ignores the extant instances . . . like those cited by Mr 5150.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:11 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No need to read again because the "weasel words qualifier" in the bold qualifies under the rubric of "disingenuous" also. It pretends that the complaint is all-encompassing and ignores the extant instances . . . like those cited by Mr 5150.
You might want to go back and see who used those "weasel words qualifier" first.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:10 PM
 
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No need to read again because the "weasel words qualifier" in the bold qualifies under the rubric of "disingenuous" also. It pretends that the complaint is all-encompassing and ignores the extant instances . . . like those cited by Mr 5150.
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You might want to go back and see who used those "weasel words qualifier" first.
The provenance of the dispute is not relevant to analysis of the extant posting. Mr 5150 is correct . . . it is clearly disingenuous on its face.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:33 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The provenance of the dispute is not relevant to analysis of the extant posting. Mr 5150 is correct . . . it is clearly disingenuous on its face.
It is disingenuous that someone refuted the exact thing that was posted? If you say so.
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