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Old 11-14-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Good. Now maybe they will leave the rest of us alone!!!!!!

 
Old 11-14-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Have I suggested that we shouldn't be united in Christ?

Why would you, for a second, consider that he's anything but a fraud by being in a position where he is to tend to God's flock?
Do you understand that not everyone shares your beliefs? You seem to have decided that if people don't share your beliefs..... they're wrong. It's a big world. Huge. With all kinds of people with all kinds of beliefs. Do you respect the beliefs of other people? (The "why would you...." tells me you don't.) I'd invite you to think about that.

p.s. If you don't want to think about it.... there's an ignore button. Easy peasy if the beliefs of others make you queasy!

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Old 11-14-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Do you understand that not everyone shares your beliefs?
Yes. Do you understand that not everyone shares your beliefs? You make a habit of personal attacks when people disagree with you.
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Do you respect the beliefs of other people?
Yes. Do YOU respect the beliefs of other people? The cheap shot personal attacks tell me you don't.
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(The "why would you...." tells me you don't.) I'd invite you to think about that.

You seldom talk about Christ, BTW. I'd invite you to think about that as well.
I post non-stop about Him. I'm always talking about what his word says.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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...snip...

I post non-stop about Him. I'm always talking about what his word says.
Dew is right. You rarely post about Christ or his teachings.

When I read your posts about your "God" and what he says, I always hear the judgmental, doom-laden, murderous, vengeful, angry Abrahamic god - not the Christ I was taught about.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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Dew is right. You rarely post about Christ or his teachings.

When I read your posts about your "God" and what he says, I always hear the judgmental, doom-laden, murderous, vengeful, angry Abrahamic god - not the Christ I was taught about.
There might be a couple of reasons for that.

1. Maybe Jesus isn't like what you were taught. the fact is, he is an angry God that will punish sinners. The good news is that Jesus died on the cross in order to take the punishment so sinners wouldn't have to. That is love.

2. Maybe it's because when you see me post, it's usually because I'm responding to someone that is spouting off false doctrine, or is whining because they think God is immoral because he is holy enough to punish sinners.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Good. Now maybe they will leave the rest of us alone!!!!!!
It must be rough to be so persecuted by the atheists.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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1. Maybe Jesus isn't like what you were taught. the fact is, he is an angry God that will punish sinners.
If that were true, God would be a petty, flawed and weak God . . . plagued by the human psychological weaknesses we are heir to . . . as revealed by Cain's reaction to disappointment by punishing Abel.
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The good news is that Jesus died on the cross in order to take the punishment so sinners wouldn't have to. That is love.
No. That is a sick and perverted nonsensical rationalization designed to retain belief in the savage jealous, angry, vengeful War God who needed to be appeased by blood sacrifice so He wouldn't torture us forever . . . and then somehow twist it instead into Love for us all.
 
Old 11-14-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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My guess why these type of assemblies find a need is probably for those that grew up in a situation where mixing with strangers at a church is considered "normal".

I have no idea why they would want to continue rituals with another focus.

When we are young, meet ups and interaction with young people may seem like a necessity but once you settle down and the kids grow up, focus changes.

I shared elsewhere that the FB atheists page for SA has less than 1000 members. This is not b/c theism is so strong, it is not. We live in a secular society where religion really plays no significant role. We have never has a creationism/evolution debate as far as school education goes, when the aspect of gay marriage came up, the opponents did not get much press likewise the abortion matter.

These are focal aspects of US society and makes the headlines frequently.

About two years ago, the aspect of creationism in schools did make a headline. A popular radio station took up the debate and atheists got vocal as did many theists who objected to teaching this. The overwhelming consensus was that creationism did not belong in schools at all.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 06:08 AM
 
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Dew is right. You rarely post about Christ or his teachings.

When I read your posts about your "God" and what he says, I always hear the judgmental, doom-laden, murderous, vengeful, angry Abrahamic god - not the Christ I was taught about.
The Bible has enough different messages that one can pick and choose. The particular choices an individual makes in this area are very telling of their personality and character.
 
Old 11-15-2013, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yes. Do you understand that not everyone shares your beliefs? You make a habit of personal attacks when people disagree with you.

Yes. Do YOU respect the beliefs of other people? The cheap shot personal attacks tell me you don't.


I post non-stop about Him. I'm always talking about what his word says.
Good grief....In what world did anything DewDrop say an attack?.... Almost every time a poster disagrees with you, you accuse them of attacking you or being off topic...

You will never catch me in a church, Atheist or otherwise...If atheists want to have regular get togethers I would think they would do well to steer clear of the word church, it is after all a social gathering for secular minded people.
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