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Old 12-08-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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I'm aware that the Bible states that Jesus rose from the dead, but is there any other evidence or suggestions out there that suggest this is true?
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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There was a cell phone video, but it has been suppressed by international atheist conspiracy.


Actually, I'm unaware of anything in support. As matters stand, we have a claim which got passed around orally for three or four decades before being codified in print by non eyewitnesses. Come to think of it, the claim itself may not have originated until decades after the supposed event.

And that's, as the Duke used to say, about the size of it.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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I'm aware that the Bible states that Jesus rose from the dead, but is there any other evidence or suggestions out there that suggest this is true?
4 Gospels written about it, an empty tomb, lack of body, hundreds of witnesses, men who chose to die because they had seen him alive and wouldn't recant....
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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There was a cell phone video, but it has been suppressed by international atheist conspiracy.


Actually, I'm unaware of anything in support. As matters stand, we have a claim which got passed around orally for three or four decades before being codified in print by non eyewitnesses. Come to think of it, the claim itself may not have originated until decades after the supposed event.

And that's, as the Duke used to say, about the size of it.
At least 3 of the Gospel writers most likely were eyewitnesses.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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I'm aware that the Bible states that Jesus rose from the dead...
My Bible doesn't say that.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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At least 3 of the Gospel writers most likely were eyewitnesses.
In that the actual identities of the authors of the gospels are unknown, you are in no position to state the probability of them being eyewitnesses to an alleged event which took place more than three decades before they began writing. The assigning of the four names, done to honor the apostles, not to identify authorship, did not take place until the 2nd Century CE.

You really do not know the history of the gospels, the history of the early spread of Christianity or what the world of Jesus was like in the 1st Century CE, do you? If you did, you would not be making nonsensical assertions such as the above.

Of course I invite you to present your evidence, an invitation I have extended to you on numerous occasions, and one which you have yet to accept.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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At least 3 of the Gospel writers most likely were eyewitnesses.
What University did you do your studies in Vizio? As a pastor you should know better than to believe that.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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My Bible doesn't say that.
JB?...John Bush?...
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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4 Gospels written about it, an empty tomb, lack of body, hundreds of witnesses, men who chose to die because they had seen him alive and wouldn't recant....
And that hasn't happened for other religions and cults? I think it has. The gospels evidence is supposedly witness accounts of non-identical meeting "that might be Jesus, even though it looks like a different person" (I don't think anyone died because they saw Jesus resurected yet weren't believers in his political and religious movement). Jews were persecuting Christians before the pagans did, and it wasnt because the pharasee Jews wanted to rebuke an idea they themselves believed in, bodily resurrection. They Jews were persecuting blasphemers, insulters, heretics, cultists, and trouble-makers: a bunch of those who fit simply happened to be political Christians. Did Jews not also die by refusing to recant when the Christians came after them? Nothing else was written?

The earliest gospels didn't include the holy birth nor the resurrection and ended at the mystery of an empty tomb, and the possibility that Jesus' human body ascended into heaven. It's unlikely that they forgot to mention the other important parts that he might have cone back to continue teaching in non-identical bodies.

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Old 12-08-2013, 06:42 PM
 
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JB?...John Bush?...
Nope.
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