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I would hate to beg for God's mercy after I spent my time on earth proudly and publicly denouncing his existence.
So you admit that your god isn't just and merciful and slow to anger and full of lovingkindness. And that he believes that magically it's okay to repent now but not later. It seems to me that one should repent when one understands that it is needed, not just on command. Assuming that what your god wants is an actual change of heart and not some sort of fear-based going along to get along.
I wouldn't have to beg for mercy from any god worthy of the label. And I would not submit to a god not worthy of it. Nor would any person of integrity.
Your god's problem isn't my obstinacy or rebellion but his refusal to show himself in any way, shape or form. In my book any being (god or not) who is invisible and does not communicate or relate in any way, is irrelevant even in the highly unlikely eventuality that it even exists.
It depends on the odds, but I were given even odds I would be willing to bet several thousand dollars that god does not exist. I'm about 98% certain it does not, so it's an easy bet for me.
So you admit that your god isn't just and merciful and slow to anger and full of lovingkindness. And that he believes that magically it's okay to repent now but not later. It seems to me that one should repent when one understands that it is needed, not just on command. Assuming that what your god wants is an actual change of heart and not some sort of fear-based going along to get along.
I wouldn't have to beg for mercy from any god worthy of the label. And I would not submit to a god not worthy of it. Nor would any person of integrity.
Your god's problem isn't my obstinacy or rebellion but his refusal to show himself in any way, shape or form. In my book any being (god or not) who is invisible and does not communicate or relate in any way, is irrelevant even in the highly unlikely eventuality that it even exists.
..........."just and merciful"..
Many court judges who were " just and merciful" sentenced criminals to life in prison w/o parole.
Your definition of "just and merciful" is.........?
There is a case of jurisprudence where mercy can prevail over justice. But that cannot be allowed to be part of Christian theology (apart from the gradual move to phase out hellthreat) or atheists could just say 'Well, damn' we were wrong' and after doffing their caps and tugging the forelock to His Worship, are allowed through the Nacre Turnstile.
While the faithful clamour their protests: "Lord, we spend years gloating over the prospect of watching those smartarse atheists burn, and now...we are being made to look like prats."
There is a case of jurisprudence where mercy can prevail over justice. But that cannot be allowed to be part of Christian theology (apart from the gradual move to phase out hellthreat) or atheists could just say 'Well, damn' we were wrong' and after doffing their caps and tugging the forelock to His Worship, are allowed through the Nacre Turnstile.
While the faithful clamour their protests: "Lord, we spend years gloating over the prospect of watching those smartarse atheists burn, and now...we are being made to look like prats."
"There Is A Reason For That.."
I checked the dictionary for the definition of life. And the dictionary says its definitions are controversial.
But to me, the eternal life means to live forever. To some people, the word Life represents joys in abundances.
Whatever it is, I suppose nobody wants to live in the eternal torments.
The Bible clearly states that because we are short of the glory of GOD, so none were worthy. Therefore, if we are willing to humble ourselves before HIM, we would be granted to stay, even becoming HIS sons. The Law Books specified on what displease GOD, not the English people, nor the Catholics. So if we could get the facts straight, any sane creature would be ashamed of itself.
Therefore, why would you bet moneys on the existence of GOD? Wherefore, if there were no GOD, then won't you be shied on your immoralities?
Believing in the existence of GOD is never an option to the certain people.
Your argument is very confused. You are saying that nobody wants to live in eternal torment (so why haven't you considered switching to Islam? Jesus may forgive; Allah won't(1) so we refuse to believe in God because we want to fry? How does that work?
(1) Since the answer to Pascal's wager - Which god - is implicit here, I'm going to require an answer, so don't think you can just ignore it.
Your argument is very confused. You are saying that nobody wants to live in eternal torment (so why haven't you considered switching to Islam? Jesus may forgive; Allah won't(1) so we refuse to believe in God because we want to fry? How does that work?
(1) Since the answer to Pascal's wager - Which god - is implicit here, I'm going to require an answer, so don't think you can just ignore it.
As far as I know, the Almighty and Jesus were two persons. The considered body of Christ had done something errr... jaw-dropping. So I am figuring out what went wrong. In the mean times, I had to take hold on the Creator HIMSELF with the gift of the Christ. And that is how the walk will be walking for now. No matter what the Christ had done wrong, everybody knows I hate burdens. All I need is on me, okay? I forget things quickly overtime, as long as yesterdays won't get in todays. And this is my speech as a creature. And for the godly speaking, I am, I meant myself as the I am, not in the position to judge. Even so I am, and I told you I hated to be burdened with no matter a golden rule or sapphire ruler.
For your second question: please check the Bible. In the image of GOD, made he him. I AM. The Almighty GOD. The GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob......... And I do what I please.
Can I charge you for defining the meanings on GOD now? Your bill will be mailed to your address. Just kidding. GOD is not a merchandise. HE is your life.
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