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Vizio: "And by what standard of morality are you, a mere puny humanoid creature, to judge an almighty war god who slaughters innocent people every time he wakes up on the wrong side of the crib?"
I agree that it's not about Job. It's about the fact that God is sovereign.
So you think it's ok to say God is immoral based on Biblical morality?
I think you're making some assumptions about what I believe Job is about, and my knowledge of the book. I'm trying to figure out what your whole point here is.
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Originally Posted by Vizio
So because God is not "good" in how you perceive "good" to be, he's immoral? Is that it?
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Originally Posted by mikebnllnb
A being that murders infants is immoral. Yes.
That should make it clear, Vizio. No one has to infer anything about what you believe, Vizio . . . you have stated it yourself many times. Might makes right. God is sovereign. Whatever God does is good. Who are we to question the Almighty God? How can the clay question the potter? etc. etc. It is this travesty of morality that is being questioned, Vizio. It is an abomination to the concept of morality itself that had its birth in ancient ignorance and savagery. Why it has been perpetuated into the 21st century and accepted is an enigma I cannot unravel.
I agree that it's not about Job. It's about the fact that God is sovereign.
So you think it's ok to say God is immoral based on Biblical morality?
I think you're making some assumptions about what I believe Job is about, and my knowledge of the book. I'm trying to figure out what your whole point here is.
Not "Biblical morality" - but morals that God has claimed for himself within the Bible in a revealed form within the Bible. I suppose if one believes the Bible to not have anything real to say about God, then it's mere "Biblical morality". If one believes the Bible does say something about God, then it is from a revealed position. Not sure which one you're talking about.
I already made my point in my initial post concerning the Book. You apparently needed clarification - which I gave. I don't know what else to tell you.
My assumption that you haven't really read the Book still stands, especially if you think it's merely about "the fact that God is sovereign". Of course, that's an important point in the book, and it is what sets up the MAIN points of the book - but it is not the only point. The fact that God is sovereign over his Creation is what creates the entire problem of the misuse of Divine Justice and the book's questioning of it through the poetic section.
That should make it clear, Vizio. No one has to infer anything about what you believe, Vizio . . . you have stated it yourself many times. Might makes right. God is sovereign. Whatever God does is good. Who are we to question the Almighty God? How can the clay question the potter? etc. etc. It is this travesty of morality that is being questioned, Vizio. It is an abomination to the concept of morality itself that had its birth in ancient ignorance and savagery. Why it has been perpetuated into the 21st century and accepted is an enigma I cannot unravel.
it's a pity, but his arguments are exactly the same as the three friends in the book - who were condemned by God for making excuses for God. It was Job - the blaspheming challenger of God - who was adduced to have been speaking truth, according to the Book.
God is great and thank goodness we are saved through what happened at Calgary, these laws are and commandments shows that man has broken at least one, because if you break one it's as if you had broken them all. Thank God for a Savior. we are all sinners and if one says they are not, they are a liar
God is great and thank goodness we are saved through what happened at Calgary, these laws are and commandments shows that man has broken at least one, because if you break one it's as if you had broken them all. Thank God for a Savior. we are all sinners and if one says they are not, they are a liar
I guess that makes your God a sinner as well.
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