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Old 03-05-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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A very good example of how Theists and Non-Theists debate. Follows a predictable discourse. Interesting nonetheless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09Fm8seQ58
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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A very good example of how Theists and Non-Theists debate. Follows a predictable discourse. Interesting nonetheless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09Fm8seQ58
Actually this is NOT a good example of a typical debate, because Comfort produced a dishonest video, cutting very important parts where his opponents answered his questions thoroughly. However, it IS a good example of how Comfort distorts his opponents arguments.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:08 PM
 
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Despite mustering my fortitude, I couldn't last past the 2 minute mark.

Comfort is an idiot. And the atheist he's "debating" appears fairly clueless, tongue-tied, and obviously uncomfortable with a camera in his face.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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Comfort is an idiot. And the atheist he's "debating" appears fairly clueless, tongue-tied, and obviously uncomfortable with a camera in his face.
He seems like that at the beginning, because Ray is asking him meaningless questions like "How do you know that every painting has a painter?" in an effort to try and trap him into saying something that can be construed as an acknowledgement of God's existence. Later in the video he's more composed and completely annihilates all Ray's arguments, comes off as way more informed than Ray is.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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He seems like that at the beginning, because Ray is asking him meaningless questions like "How do you know that every painting has a painter?" in an effort to try and trap him into saying something that can be construed as an acknowledgement of God's existence. Later in the video he's more composed and completely annihilates all Ray's arguments, comes off as way more informed than Ray is.
Well, then, maybe I'll give it another go and skip past the first bit.
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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Heroically, I mustered the tattered remnants of my intestinal fortitude and hurled myself back into the video.

Alas, at the 6:30 mark, my gorge began to rise dangerously and I had to stop.

Comfort is indeed a moron. And this guy has followers?

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Old 03-05-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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Alas, at the 6:30 mark, my gorge began to rise dangerously and I had to stop.
It gets worse in the next couple minutes. I don't blame you for stopping.
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Old 03-05-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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Heroically, I mustered the tattered remnants of my intestinal fortitude and hurled myself back into the video.

Alas, at the 6:30 mark, my gorge began to rise dangerously and I had to stop.

Comfort is indeed a moron. And this guy has followers?

He not only has followers, he's emulated. Comfort stated to Matt Dillahunty recently that he's not interested in debating evolution or science, he is only interested in converting his opponent to Christianity.
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Old 03-05-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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I saw this video before and I agree that at least as edited, the atheist is clearly not on his best game and probably not that experienced in debating theists. For one thing he seems surprised and confused at the lack of intellectual integrity and rigor and fairness, as if he's never seen such things before. I didn't get all the way through it either; neither debater struck me as effective.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:02 AM
 
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LOL. We "Evolutionists" have more Faith than Ray Comfort!?

I thought faith was a virtue. I guess Ray doesn't think so anymore. Evolutionists don't think faith is a virtue, they think that skepticism and critical thinking are the virtue.

It seems our supposed "Pillars of Salt, and Pillars of Sand" are simply in greater quantity than Ray's supposed "solid foundation of choosing to believe in 'Jesus' no matter what" can wash away.
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