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Old 03-07-2014, 04:35 AM
 
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Why doesn't mainstream Science come clear and admit that all the available evidence certainly points to a Creator?

 
Old 03-07-2014, 07:03 AM
 
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Why doesn't mainstream Science come clear and admit that all the available evidence certainly points to a Creator?
Using religion to explain the physics of the world is not scientific and considered very poor form.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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What science and physics do is reveal what the Creator put in place. But because many people do not have a relationship with God, other theories are put forth as to how the earth and human life came to be.

Gravity had to originate somewhere, or with Someone.

The sun's distance from the earth had to be at the proper amount to sustain human, plant, and animal life on earth - Someone not only has to know what that distance is, but also has to have the ability to maintain that distance.

The Lord tells Job...

Job 38:4-24
4 "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 "On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy? 8 "Or who enclosed the sea with doors When, bursting forth, it went out from the womb; 9 When I made a cloud its garment And thick darkness its swaddling band, 10 And I placed boundaries on it And set a bolt and doors, 11 And I said, `Thus far you shall come, but no farther; And here shall your proud waves stop'?

12 "Have you ever in your life commanded the morning, And caused the dawn to know its place, 13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it? 14 "It is changed like clay under the seal; And they stand forth like a garment. 15 "From the wicked their light is withheld, And the uplifted arm is broken. 16 "Have you entered into the springs of the sea Or walked in the recesses of the deep? 17 "Have the gates of death been revealed to you, Or have you seen the gates of deep darkness? 18 "Have you understood the expanse of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this. 19 "Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place, 20 That you may take it to its territory And that you may discern the paths to its home? 21 "You know, for you were born then, And the number of your days is great! 22 "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, Or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, 23 Which I have reserved for the time of distress, For the day of war and battle? 24 "Where is the way that the light is divided, Or the east wind scattered on the earth?
 
Old 03-07-2014, 07:32 AM
 
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Why doesn't mainstream Science come clear and admit that all the available evidence certainly points to a Creator?
Well, through certain processes, the argument is made that the universe only looks designed but it didn't start out that way. Yet in any case, if we were to argue the universe looks designed, the designer wouldn't be the God of the Bible.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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The goldilocks phenomenon is much more than distance to the Sun. We need tectonic plates, a spinning metal core to develop a magnetic field (to protect from radiation), a large moon to stabilize the Earth axis, and large outer gas giants to deviate asteroids coming our way. The earth was also blessed with the elements needed to form life such as C, N Fe, I, P, ect. These elements only make up 0.13% of the universe. We were lucky to have them thanks to the Super Nova. We are on our 3rd atmosphere and it is correct for human life. There has not been a collision with a large asteroid in many millions of years. These collisions are fully capable of destroying life.


You may say all these coincidences are God if you will. But, the explanations we provide must be scientific. Otherwise, we are no different than the barbarians primitive people that lived thousands of years ago. And if we followed your advice we would never have Galileo, Newton, Maxwell, Mach, Planck, Einstein, Frydman, etc. If up to the poster we would still think the earth is flat and that the sun circles the Earth.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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The world was forfeited to the devil, so he has a heavy influence on the earth as well as the minds of nonbelievers.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

It states in the Bible that in the last days, they will believe the two biggest lies. 1. That there was no creation. 2. That there was no flood.

2 Peter 3:5-6 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.

Everything is just as the Bible describes so believers should just look up in anticipation of what is to come as the 'former things are passing away'
 
Old 03-07-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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The world was forfeited to the devil,
See what I am talking about? No progress after 3500 years.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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See what I am talking about? No progress after 3500 years.
Ecclesiastes 1:9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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Ecclesiastes 1:9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
We have GPS and flat screen TVs.


The barbaric primitives who believed the Earth was flat did not have a clue, however they knew the bible as well as you do. Without science and technological advance we are going nowhere. We are doomed to remain in the Dark Ages.
 
Old 03-07-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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If you can explain how God created the universe based on available empirical and observable hypotheses and without referring to a single religious text, then you'll get the attention of physical scientists instead of social scientists.

There's simply nothing that requires the hand of a creator in all of the observed and verifiable phenomena in the universe. And every time that humanity has pointed to a supernatural explanation for something they were seeing that explanation turned out to be wrong.
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