What is the real connection between the Mormon/LDS Faith and Masons? (Latter Day Saints, grace)
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More on Masonic Occult symbolism. It is present in many religions. The sign of the inverted cross is a satanic symbol.
Oh please! You've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.
I've seen some badly made clips on You Tube but that one is so bad it's like the others.... amusing. The guy can't even spell.
And he starts by saying that Wiccans worship the devil. Listen my friend,Wiccans don't even believe in any devil.
Please, if you're going to trawl You Tube looking for something that will convince anyone with whatever you're aiming for.... spare yourself and us the bother.
I am curious about the connection between the Mormons and the Masons. Are Free Masons different than Masons? We all know that Joseph Smith was involved in Masonry and in turn he incorporated Masonic teachings into the doctrine of the Mormon faith, from symbols on the Garments to symbols in certain Mormon books, and the most obvious are the symbols on the temples, mainly the Salt Lake Temple.
Most Christian faiths teach that Masonry is Satanic in origins and the Holy Catholic Church is very outspoken on the evils and perils of being Masonic.
I have a friend who is Mormon and says that they are taught as young children that Masonic "groups" are of the devil EVEN though Joseph Smith was a member of the Scottish Rite. Mormon temple ceremonies are supposedly very similar to Masonic ceremonies.
This just confuses the hell out of me. Why would a religion have basis and foundation on Masonry and in modern times teach that Masonry is evil?
I'm waiting for 'National Treasure III' to come out to see how Nicholas Cage unravels it for us under the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City, Utah. I'm sure he'll be battling off thousands of Avenging Angles who are guarding the Temple's secret treasure.
This is a very interesting subject because if you research the history of the mormon church, the connection between masons and mormons is blatant. Everyone knew Joseph and his brother Hyrum and many others were heavily involved in masononic activities, they were leaders. They did not try to hide this. Joseph wrote about his life very openly. Much of the ceremony in the mormon temple is taken directly from part of a masonic ceremony. And when Joseph died he yelled the masonic cry. "oh Lord, my God" Which is a cry that masons will use as a sign of distress. Is there a connection? Absolutely, what's the big deal in admitting this? I don't know, hiding subject matters has never been much of an appeal for me. I believe Joseph actually got kicked out of the mason circle due to bringing rituals into his mormon temple.
Most modern mormon leaders will deny or make light of the masonic connection. Why? It's clearly a connection, why not be open about it? Rather, they will deny or dance around the subject until you are content with leaving well enough alone and accept their answer without question.
*I think the one who keeps posting youtube clips and such is a bit on the extremist side. Those relations to satanic practices are made up and a bit rediculous. Mormons nor masons are satanic, I don't care how many youtube clips you show "proving" they are*
Oh please! You've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.
I've seen some badly made clips on You Tube but that one is so bad it's like the others.... amusing. The guy can't even spell.
And he starts by saying that Wiccans worship the devil. Listen my friend,Wiccans don't even believe in any devil.
Please, if you're going to trawl You Tube looking for something that will convince anyone with whatever you're aiming for.... spare yourself and us the bother.
Well, I don't know, Northsider. As much as I hate to admit it, I think Hiram might have a point within the nonsense. I haven't looked at the youboob thing, but I can speak with first hand knowledge of Wiccans and Masons.
The Wiccans I had the unfortunate dealings with did MOST definitely believe in the devil, and the mason connection was possessed. I don't want to go into great detail about it, but it's real and Satan is a BIG part of it. I'm not scared of much, but these people were truly filled with demons and it was serious business.
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I remember when a cop that was flirting with me told me proudly that he was a mason. I had never heard of an organization named that. I looked at him strangely and said "your a brick layer" in the no doubt strangest way. Then they had to explain.
Oh please! You've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.
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I've seen some badly made clips on You Tube but that one is so bad it's like the others.... amusing. The guy can't even spell.
And he starts by saying that Wiccans worship the devil. Listen my friend,Wiccans don't even believe in any devil.
Please, if you're going to trawl You Tube looking for something that will convince anyone with whatever you're aiming for.... spare yourself and us the bother.
Speak for yourself.
Wiccans do go to religious ceremonies, so they certainly worship. The question becomes, then, who are they worshipping? The answer differs with each Wiccan. Some worship Diana, some worship Pan, some worship Isis and Osiris, some worship the archetypical Great Goddess and God, some worship nature, some worship the One, some worship a mixture depending upon the ceremony, and (to be quite frank) we do have Wiccans who don't worship much of anything (the same can be said of any religion). Lucifer is usually at the centre. And he might have a different name such as Osiris. Different cultures have different names. When the languages were confused at the tower of bable, the people scattered, but they all retained their Babylonian occult religion. They still worshipped the same God, just the name had changed. Osiris is the God of the underground, or lucifer.
The first thing I noticed in the clip was the spelling mistakes. I didn't think much about it as I know that many foreigners use the forum. I could tell that this individual was most likely a foreigner. If you would have thought to investigate, you might have came to the realization that this writer was born in Germany and is a Greek. Thus the name, Hekatos89. You should please investigate before coming up with assumptions. Besides, spelling has no bearing on investigation. Fear does though.
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bluepacific I'm waiting for 'National Treasure III' to come out to see how Nicholas Cage unravels it for us under the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City, Utah. I'm sure he'll be battling off thousands of Avenging Angles who are guarding the Temple's secret treasure.
This movie is produced by Freemasons, and you won't get the truth from it.
Here is a good movie if anyone wants to learn more about freemasons, especially their influence in America. There is a part one, but I couldn't find it for viewing on the internet, although it can be purchased. They are both very good movies. Part one - Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings
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