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Old 03-28-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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An ancestry to be proud of, no doubt. I am descended from a man who was made in the image of God.
Of course, it is much more likely that god was made in the image of man.

You know, like Thor, Janus and Yahweh.

 
Old 03-28-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Eusebius, on the contrary, they are not bias, you really need to understand just what is involved in a "theory". Within the scientific theory process both sides have a say so, if one can provide empirical support of an explanation within nature they can present it, or if one can empirically contradict the theory they can present it.

As to the theory of evolution, it is just a theory due to no one has empirical proof of the events, they do have fossil records but this isn't empirical proof that live evolved from a single cell creature, so again, it is just a theory. Just as there is no empirical proof in ID, most things in the universe can be explained by quantum mechanics, going from the smallest to the largest, but these are just theories also. There is no need to get yourself all worked up over evolution just as there is no need to get ones self worked up over ID. Until science can provide empirical proof either way your swinging at windmills.
Actually, the existence of evolution is well-proven. Just be sure you understand what evolution means. Evolution means that life forms change over long periods of time. Evolution does not make any claim to knowing how life started. The fact that organisms change through generations is what makes vaccines work. Many medicines work because chemists know how they will change under certain conditions. This is even known to apply to humans. Just one example: Over the last few hundred years, humans have generally gotten taller than their ancestors were 10 generations ago. That's irrefutable proof that evolution is a real process. You can see it with your own eyes looking at the current generation and comparing it with the earliest generation you can find iin your family tree. There really isn't any doubt about the existence of evolution.

When people start talking about dogs having kittens or people having chimps for grandparents, or even how life began, they aren't talking about evolution. I really don't know what they're talking about when that happens.

The alternative is to ignore all those things and just say it isn't so because some fundie preacher told you it can't be so because your grandfather isn't a monkey. (You do get you kids their vaccinations, don't you?)
 
Old 03-28-2014, 04:11 PM
 
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An ancestry to be proud of, no doubt. I am descended from a man who was made in the image of God.
Truly a person whose eyes were opened by God!
 
Old 03-28-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Truly a person whose eyes were opened by God!
Then why can't he (or you) see the truth?

Many blind people have eyes that are open.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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Why must science and religion always conflict?

Because science is, has, and always will be perceived by religious literalist as a existential threat to religious dogma.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Because science is, has, and always will be perceived by religious literalist as a existential threat to religious dogma.
Not always. It is just that science hasn't yet caught up with God's wisdom and power.

Give science a couple billion years and it might graduate from kindergarten.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Not always. It is just that science hasn't yet caught up with God's wisdom and power.

Give science a couple billion years and it might graduate from kindergarten.
Science has wiped out many diseases, lengthened people's lifespans enormously and put a man on the moon in the last 400 years. What, exactly, has religion accomplished in that time?
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey, USA
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Not always. It is just that science hasn't yet caught up with God's wisdom and power.

Give science a couple billion years and it might graduate from kindergarten.
Hello again Eusebius.

With all do respect, rhetoric of this nature is not productive.

Please present your evidence for Intelligent Design and the conspiracy that pressures scientists to discount it.

Thanks.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 06:52 PM
 
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Hello again Eusebius.

With all do respect, rhetoric of this nature is not productive.

Please present your evidence for Intelligent Design and the conspiracy that pressures scientists to discount it.

Thanks.
Hi Hyker,
I'll let this, from evolutionnews.org explain to you the **growing** persecution of scientists who espouse Intelligent Design here: Academic Persecution of Scientists and Scholars Researching Intelligent Design is a Dangerous and Growing Trend - Evolution News & Views
 
Old 03-28-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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Science has wiped out many diseases, lengthened people's lifespans enormously and put a man on the moon in the last 400 years. What, exactly, has religion accomplished in that time?
God gave it to the scientists penicillin and other medicines, and gave intelligence to scientists to lengthen people's lives and God gave it to scientists the knowledge to go to the moon. You know, the same One who created the universe. I'd like to see scientists do something greater than that.
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