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Old 04-02-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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Finally!!!!! 100% Proof of Intelligent Design!

This is something we have all been waiting for!

Finally there is 100% proof of Intelligent Design!

Several Swedish scientists have come forward with
absolute proof of Intelligent Design.

Using the information gathered through the Hadron Collider, after going through
reams and reams of data, they have announced to the European Center for Advanced Science
their new findings. Based on all the data, they announced just this morning that the universe
could only come about by intelligent design. Of course this is April 1 you know.
On top of everything else you're unfunny as well.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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So where is the 100% proof that I originated from a pond of goop?
Ask your dad.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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Ask your dad.
OMG! (snort)

You people are bad.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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Ask your dad.
Is that like a 'your mama' joke? You have a great sophomoric humor.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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Is that like a 'your mama' joke? You have a great sophomoric humor.
I thought it was brilliant. And really the 'argument from pondslime' fallacy of incredulity deserved no better.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Is intelligent design a scientific theory?

Yes. The scientific method is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations,
hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation that intelligent
agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists hypothesize that if a natural
object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI. Scientists then perform experimental tests upon
natural objects to determine if they contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of
CSI is irreducible complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological
structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find irreducible
complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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Is intelligent design a scientific theory?

Yes. The scientific method is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations,
hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation that intelligent
agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists hypothesize that if a natural
object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI. Scientists then perform experimental tests upon
natural objects to determine if they contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of
CSI is irreducible complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological
structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find irreducible
complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed.
Sorry, no. Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory. It doesn't meet the criteria for a Scientific Theory.

It is just Creationism rebadged with a few 'sciency' sounding ideas that don't pan out.

Michael Behe's irreducible complexity hypothesis has been disproven.


Ken Miller on Intelligent Design - YouTube

and here is the 'missing link' between Creationism and Intelligent Design. It's called "cdesign proponentsists" and can be found in 'transitional' versions of the Creationist book "Of Pandas and People" which 'evolved' into a textbook for Intelligent Design proponents

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-tk7MkHKtI

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Old 04-03-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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Anyone interested in seeing how Intelligent Design was exposed as Creationism rebadged to try to sneak Creationism into school science classes, should watch the following documentary on the Kitzmiller v Dover trial. It's fascinating.


Judgment Day: Intelligent Design On Trial (creationism vs evolution) - YouTube
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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Sorry, no. Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory. It doesn't meet the criteria for a Scientific Theory.

It is just Creationism rebadged with a few 'sciency' sounding ideas that don't pan out.

Michael Behe's irreducible complexity hypothesis has been disproven.

How can you disprove the irreducible complexity of a mouse trap?

ID is based on scientific theory. Just because you found some folks that offer an alternative view does not mean it isn't.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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How can you disprove the irreducible complexity of a mouse trap?

ID is based on scientific theory. Just because you found some folks that offer an alternative view does not mean it isn't.
Easy. Part of the mouse trap makes a great tie clip. Ask Dr Ken Miller, he wore one in court in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW_2lLG9EZM
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