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Old 05-17-2014, 09:10 AM
 
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What is the theist take on the act of cremation?

Does it eliminate the individual from the Rapture (no body to return) or give direct access to an afterlife?

I have never pursued this line of questioning with a theist so I truly do not know what their answer would be, just curious.
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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What is the theist take on the act of cremation?

Does it eliminate the individual from the Rapture (no body to return) or give direct access to an afterlife?

I have never pursued this line of questioning with a theist so I truly do not know what their answer would be, just curious.
The Jews buried their people...Most Pagans conducted cremation ceremonies...So, in order to stand out, why do as the Pagans do?...
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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There are numerous different opinions among us Theist. Every flavor of us seem to have different reasons for seeing it as permitted, forbidden or neutral.

Islam is opposed to it.

We also oppose embalming.

While I do oppose both because of my religious beliefs, I also opposed them during my Atheist years, based upon the Wisdom of Ambrose Bierce

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EMBALM, v.i. To cheat vegetation by locking up the gases upon which it feeds. By embalming their dead and thereby deranging the natural balance between animal and vegetable life, the Egyptians made their once fertile and populous country barren and incapable of supporting more than a meagre crew. The modern metallic burial casket is a step in the same direction, and many a dead man who ought now to be ornamenting his neighbor's lawn as a tree, or enriching his table as a bunch of radishes, is doomed to a long inutility. We shall get him after awhile if we are spared, but in the meantime the violet and rose are languishing for a nibble at his glutoeus maximus.
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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The author Kat Kerr who wrote the book "Revealing Heaven" based off her 10+ years of visits of Heaven, says the father told her to tell us that it is okay to cremate our family members and he wants us to do it. It saves lots of money. Alot of Christians in the past believed it was a mortal sin to cremate because the dust would be scattered all over the earth and God would not able to resurrect the body on the day of reckoning. God says he created Adam out of the dust of the Earth and he knows every hair on our head. He can put all the particles of the body back together whether cremated, boned, etc. Lol.
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Old 05-17-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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The author Kat Kerr who wrote the book "Revealing Heaven" based off her 10+ years of visits of Heaven, says the father told her to tell us that it is okay to cremate our family members and he wants us to do it. It saves lots of money. Alot of Christians in the past believed it was a mortal sin to cremate because the dust would be scattered all over the earth and God would not able to resurrect the body on the day of reckoning. God says he created Adam out of the dust of the Earth and he knows every hair on our head. He can put all the particles of the body back together whether cremated, boned, etc. Lol.
To me funerals are a ridiculous expense that serves no purpose. I'm a bit of a naturalist. Simply put the deceased in the ground ASAP with no fanfare, and without sealing them in a tin can or wooden box.

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Old 05-17-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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I'm an atheist.

Cremation is my third choice.

My first choice is that my wife just rent a dumpster, and do a thorough cleaning while tucking me away in the bottom under all the junk.

My second choice is that she have me embalmed, as well as fitted with articulated limbs, so that 'I' can be variously dressed and placed around the house as appropriate (standing on the landing in my finest gazing down upon the living room, seated at the holiday dinner table in my favorite sweater, etc.).

My first two suggestions haven't been very well received.

So, cremation it is for me!
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I'm an atheist.

Cremation is my third choice.

My first choice is that my wife just rent a dumpster, and do a thorough cleaning while tucking me away in the bottom under all the junk.

My second choice is that she have me embalmed, as well as fitted with articulated limbs, so that 'I' can be variously dressed and placed around the house as appropriate (standing on the landing in my finest gazing down upon the living room, seated at the holiday dinner table in my favorite sweater, etc.).

My first two suggestions haven't been very well received.

So, cremation it is for me!
I can understand the objection to the first choice. There would be too much risk of being dumped into a land fill in an unsavory neighborhood. some landfills are in pretty nasty areas.

I can't understand her other objection. You could actually be quite useful as a clothes tree or maybe even a plant holder.
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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My second choice is that she have me embalmed, as well as fitted with articulated limbs, so that 'I' can be variously dressed and placed around the house as appropriate (standing on the landing in my finest gazing down upon the living room, seated at the holiday dinner table in my favorite sweater, etc.).

...snip...
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Old 05-17-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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I'm an atheist.

Cremation is my third choice.

My first choice is that my wife just rent a dumpster, and do a thorough cleaning while tucking me away in the bottom under all the junk.

My second choice is that she have me embalmed, as well as fitted with articulated limbs, so that 'I' can be variously dressed and placed around the house as appropriate (standing on the landing in my finest gazing down upon the living room, seated at the holiday dinner table in my favorite sweater, etc.).

My first two suggestions haven't been very well received.

So, cremation it is for me!
Im a Christian and I'm with you. I told my wife to put me in a hefty bag and throw it in the dumpster. It went over about as well as yours did.

I also think a funeral is a big waste of money. Whatever is cheaper. If that's cremation, then so be it.
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Old 05-17-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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To me funerals are a ridiculous expense that serves no purpose. I'm a bit of a naturalist. Simply put the deceased in the ground ASAP with no fanfare, and without sealing them in a tin can or wooden box.

Au Naturel
They tried that in Paris hundreds of years ago and it created quite a sanitation issue, not to mention the overcrowded burial grounds having body parts bursting out of them to be dragged around the streets by dogs. That is why they built the catacombs and moved countless bodies underground.

There is a reason for coffins, vaults and other mandated burial practices. It insures the deceased remains put during rainstorms.

Logically cremation makes the most sense IMO from a cost and sanitation perspective. It also gave me the ability to divide the scattering of my wife's ashes between her childhood home and the home we shared. I also offered a portion to her family if they wanted to inter her in an urn so they'd have something to visit, if that was their desire.

As for the various resurrection stories, there is ultimately nothing impeding an almighty god from resurrecting from ashes, given that over the millennia, many believer's bodies have decayed to dust anyway. He can make an exact copy of the original body or miraculously reassemble all the original atoms, his choice.
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