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Your comment only applies to Jews. It has no relevance to slaves that were owned by Jews that came about as a result of wars or other actions.
OK?
First of all, taking POWS as slaves was just something that they did. Do you find that to be wrong? Why?
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I would hope your seminary would have taught you that. If it didn't, do you need references for professional development courses that would make you more aware of this fact?
Or are you deliberately forgetting this fact?
I absolutely recognize that. But it has nothing to do with the type of slavery that took place in America.
Other then attributing the origin of the golden rule to Jesus, I don't think you are wrong at all. ............
I actually agree with your take,but then, I don't have to defend the Bible as Inerrant.
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Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to either, wow the hoops those people have to negotiate. I "The Golden Rule," can you tell me where else it is stated in proactive terms, as in "do good" as opposed to don't do harm?"
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Great, a quote by the greatest institutionalized mass murderer of all time followed up by a quote from the world's greatest institutionalized mass adulterer of all time.
Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to either, wow the hoops those people have to negotiate. I "The Golden Rule," can you tell me where else it is stated in proactive terms, as in "do good" as opposed to don't do harm?"
I had to dig up the ones I was thinking of, as most of them were the negative formulation (more on that in a minute)
MoTzu, who lived roughly 400 years before Christ stated,
If people regarded other people's families in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own family to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.
In the Mahābhārata we find,
Hence, (keeping these in mind), by self-control and by making dharma (right conduct) your main focus, treat others as you treat yourself.
The other point I wanted to make is that I find the positive form of the Golden Rule to be the less useful formulation. It has a loophole that lets someone argue, for example that conversion by force is good, because if the speaker was destined for hell, they would want someone to force them to believe. I prefer the formulation,
Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
which does not leave room for imposing on others in a way you think would be helpful without their consent. In general I tend to think in a libertarian way, so I tend to think that the best thing someone can do to me without my consent is to leave me alone
Good points. Application has always been a problem. As in would you want to be forcibly converted and would a forcible conversion have any real effect in any religious system anyway? Appropriate understanding is the key as opposed to superficial ideas, but that does require getting to know the people one is interacting with....... ooooh, tough.
Never ran across Mo Tzu before, I like what little I saw and it is too bad his influence died out to such an extent. Damn formalists anyway.
First of all, taking POWS as slaves was just something that they did. Do you find that to be wrong? Why?
That you need to ask this reveals a lot about the lack of understanding of Christ and agape love. It is depressing that you claim to be a seminary trained pastor.
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