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Old 06-14-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I have never discriminated against gays, nor those who do other types of sins...I'm Christian. Where did you get the idea all Christians discriminate against gays...from the few who do?
There are many non-Christians who discriminate against gays...but that is not to say all non- Christians do. Are you gay?
Well bully for you.

Unfortunately, many bible-thumping Christians do think and behave in a bigoted manner.

I've never heard an atheist disparage gays but I suppose there are some. But they don't point to a "holy book" and say god told them to.

Am I gay?

None of your business.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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What is it to say that one group of people were created to experience eternal bliss, and one group of people were created to face eternal torment?

What is it to say that we go to heaven by accepting Jesus as our lord and savior, when accepting Jesus as lord requires BELIEVING that he is lord? Why is BELIEVING something the important thing? Humans are terrible at knowing what to believe. Why is salvation from eternal torment contingent on believing a certain thing? Even if it is ultimately spiritual regeneration that insures salvation, regeneration depends on belief. What human parent would put his children in such a position? Who among us would allow our children to burn in hell for any reason, let alone for failing to believe a collection of facts.

What is it for God to empathize? If he can empathize with me, how can he allow me to go to eternal torment? He would be empathizing with me for eternity as I burned. What would that be like for him? Knowing that I, his son, am burning in hell for eternity must be miserable for him.

If God's love "casts out fear," why are some people who aren't Christians full of love and empty of fear, while some who are Christians are full of fear an empty of love?

Who is God, really?

What is he really like?

And if he's the god of the Christian faith, is he worth worshiping?
The RCC and Calvin/Luther have really done a number on people, haven't they? After all, it was they who conceived this ridiculous notion of Jesus and the saints watching in glee from heaven as billions of people burn in hell, and chanting and praising the "Lamb" as they burn singing, "It is justice for you, O Lord, to punish our sons and daughters and parents and loved ones with fire and torment for eternity because they rejected you."

Made me want to vomit just typing that last part out. Sick, SICK tripe.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Well bully for you.

Unfortunately, many bible-thumping Christians do think and behave in a bigoted manner.

I've never heard an atheist disparage gays but I suppose there are some. But they don't point to a "holy book" and say god told them to.

Am I gay?

None of your business.

You are right. If you are gay it is none of my business...would that hold true for my believing in God...would that be none of your business?
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Because so many other people do believe it's true and act accordingly.

They sicken me.
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I have never discriminated against gays, nor those who do other types of sins...I'm Christian. Where did you get the idea all Christians discriminate against gays...from the few who do?
There are many non-Christians who discriminate against gays...but that is not to say all non- Christians do. Are you gay?
Note that in the original quote da Dude said, "so many," not "all."
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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Note that in the original quote da Dude said, "so many," not "all."

No the Dude said..."many," the Dud din not say, "so many."

Does that put us on the same page...Dude?
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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The RCC and Calvin/Luther have really done a number on people, haven't they? After all, it was they who conceived this ridiculous notion of Jesus and the saints watching in glee from heaven as billions of people burn in hell, and chanting and praising the "Lamb" as they burn singing, "It is justice for you, O Lord, to punish our sons and daughters and parents and loved ones with fire and torment for eternity because they rejected you."
Made me want to vomit just typing that last part out. Sick, SICK tripe.
It is truly sad that here in the 21st century there are so many so willing to buy into such barbaric tripe, Thrill!!
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by thrillobyte
The RCC and Calvin/Luther have really done a number on people, haven't they? After all, it was they who conceived this ridiculous notion of Jesus and the saints watching in glee from heaven as billions of people burn in hell, and chanting and praising the "Lamb" as they burn singing, "It is justice for you, O Lord, to punish our sons and daughters and parents and loved ones with fire and torment for eternity because they rejected you."
Made me want to vomit just typing that last part out. Sick, SICK tripe.




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It is truly sad that here in the 21st century there are so many so willing to buy into such barbaric tripe, Thrill!!

I agree, what thrillobyte posted is sick...that is not from the Bible...where is that sick stuff from?
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I have never discriminated against gays, nor those who do other types of sins...I'm Christian. Where did you get the idea all Christians discriminate against gays...from the few who do?
There are many non-Christians who discriminate against gays...but that is not to say all non- Christians do. Are you gay?
The few sure are doing a good job at keeping them from getting married and in too many cases, from adopting.
You have no problem with same sex marriages then?
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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The few sure are doing a good job at keeping them from getting married and in too many cases, from adopting.
You have no problem with same sex marriages then?
It is the leaders of religions you speak who are fighting. As I have posted..."I follow no religion."
I also judge no one for sins against Gods laws...all humans are sinners. I am also human.
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Old 06-14-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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No the Dude said..."many," the Dud din not say, "so many."

Does that put us on the same page...Dude?
I'm not certain we're on the same planet.

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