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Old 06-10-2014, 06:37 AM
 
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The scientists claim that new bacteria are appearing and they are resistant to some of our current antibiotics.

People who believe in evolution are not surprised by this. They think existing bacteria mutate and evolve to create new types of bacteria, just like some ape-like creatures mutated and evolved to create you.

What do evolution deniers think about this? How are the new and more deadly types of bacteria being created? Is your god creating them?
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:41 AM
 
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It's still a bacteria.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:35 AM
 
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It's still a bacteria.
In turn, an animal is still an animal and a plant is still a plant.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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It's still a bacteria.
You truly do not understand science.

And being on the scientific forefront made America great, at one point.

Now, it's sad to say, but the term 'Murika is more the norm.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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The scientists claim that new bacteria are appearing and they are resistant to some of our current antibiotics.

People who believe in evolution are not surprised by this. They think existing bacteria mutate and evolve to create new types of bacteria, just like some ape-like creatures mutated and evolved to create you.

What do evolution deniers think about this? How are the new and more deadly types of bacteria being created? Is your god creating them?
Nope he leaves all of that to humans to muck up anything and everything they can.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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In turn, an animal is still an animal and a plant is still a plant.
That's like saying a bacteria and virus are the same.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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That's like saying a bacteria and virus are the same.
You're not really getting this. Your objection to evolution by claiming bacteria remains bacteria is not really any kind of objection at all. It's the same as saying that if a specific species of animal evolves that it is still an animal, to which the response would be predictably, "so what." Species do not jump to another kingdom and all of a sudden becomes a plant. Rather, the species split. But according to you jumping kingdoms is what evolution would do if it were true. And since that caricature or straw-man version is not observed, it must therefore be false. When in reality that isn't how evolution works. An no one claims that to be the case.

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Old 06-10-2014, 02:57 PM
 
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You're not really getting this. Your objection to evolution by claiming bacteria remains bacteria is not really any kind of objection at all. It's the same as saying that if a specific species of animal evolves that it is still an animal, to which the response would be predictably, "so what." Species do not jump to another kingdom and all of a sudden becomes a plant. Rather, the species split. But according to you jumping kingdoms is what evolution would do if it were true. And since that caricature or straw-man version is not observed, it must therefore be false. When in reality that isn't how evolution works. An no one claims that to be the case.

My objection is the issue of scale. You are comparing small mutations in a bacteria to mutations in other species. Apparently over millions and millions, these small changes add up to big changes. I certainly don't see huge changes in bacteria. This is nothing more than a design element from God to allow creation to adapt to their environments.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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My objection is the issue of scale. You are comparing small mutations in a bacteria to mutations in other species. Apparently over millions and millions, these small changes add up to big changes. I certainly don't see huge changes in bacteria. This is nothing more than a design element from God to allow creation to adapt to their environments.
But it is your argument. Saying that bacteria is still bacteria is the same as saying that if a new species of animal splits off its progenitor population, it's not really evolution because it is still an animal. Of course it is still an animal. Why wouldn't it be? No one would expect otherwise. So when you say it's still bacteria. Well of course it is, why wouldn't it be? No one would expect otherwise. It's a hallow argument.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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My objection is the issue of scale. You are comparing small mutations in a bacteria to mutations in other species. Apparently over millions and millions, these small changes add up to big changes. I certainly don't see huge changes in bacteria. This is nothing more than a design element from God to allow creation to adapt to their environments.
Once again, you prove you do not understand science.
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