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Old 08-24-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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Mitochondrial eve is an interesting part of the history of human origin.
Trace back 100 to 200 thousand years back.
Although the dates are estimated based on life expectancy or molecular clock. Which in itself is very interesting. What if the molecular clock has been altered in variants of time. This could explain why a human could live very long. Say 900 years.
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:11 AM
 
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Just like religion all Scientist have motivations. So the outcome of the data is from the observers perception. We still got a lot of hurdles in the Scientific Community. All knowledge today is built upon the founders. And it is subject to change.
I find it interesting that a frame of the universe is 4 forces 4 states of matter, and 4 dimensions. Huh looks familiar ...
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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The Scientific method is in no way perfect.
Look back at the history of the rotation of the planets and the Sun Revolving around the Earth.
The early Scientist were able to build a model that worked according to there belief.
The fact of the planets revolving around the Sun was accepted eventually. But it was only recently actually observed.
Perception will motivate your beliefs. Those who truly serve God seek the truth.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:45 AM
 
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Science has the best track record for finding out facts. Religion hasn't.
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Old 08-25-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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Mitochondrial eve is an interesting part of the history of human origin.
Trace back 100 to 200 thousand years back.
Although the dates are estimated based on life expectancy or molecular clock. Which in itself is very interesting. What if the molecular clock has been altered in variants of time. This could explain why a human could live very long. Say 900 years.
Last Thursdayism could explain a lot, as well.
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Old 08-25-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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Mitochondrial eve is an interesting part of the history of human origin.
Trace back 100 to 200 thousand years back.
Although the dates are estimated based on life expectancy or molecular clock. Which in itself is very interesting. What if the molecular clock has been altered in variants of time. This could explain why a human could live very long. Say 900 years.
But it doesn't explain why Hebrews ... and ONLY Hebrews ... seemed to have this exceedingly selective ability to live for many centuries. No other culture or society has any documentation of people living to be 900 years old. Or even 200 years old.
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:40 AM
 
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But it doesn't explain why Hebrews ... and ONLY Hebrews ... seemed to have this exceedingly selective ability to live for many centuries. No other culture or society has any documentation of people living to be 900 years old. Or even 200 years old.
God decreed it...

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Just like religion all Scientist have motivations. So the outcome of the data is from the observers perception. We still got a lot of hurdles in the Scientific Community. All knowledge today is built upon the founders. And it is subject to change.
I find it interesting that a frame of the universe is 4 forces 4 states of matter, and 4 dimensions. Huh looks familiar ...
Duh...Look, your efforts to try to use Mitochondrial eve to prove genesis and the vage thing you heard about the observer changing the result of the experiment, plus of course the usual Creationists stuff about about science having some sort of agenda to discredit the Bible and the back to front argument about science always getting things wrong, is all half assed, pinacled.

The beauty of science is that it will re-evaluate previous views in the light of new information.

Christianity is doing this all the time, slowly, grudgingly, and often causing disagreements, but it tries to claim that it isn't changing at all.

On the other hand, as explained above, since discoveries at the time that science really became experimental, the heliocentric system, the circulation of the blood and deep -time geology - science hasn't really had to change anything it said at all. The new discoveries merely add to the basics of Newton, Copernicus, Hervey, Faraday and Darwin, whose discoveries are just as valid now as they were then.

The Bible on the other hand is falling apart, piece by piece. Genesis and now Exodus does not look true, nor the Conquest, and certainly not the nativity or resurrection. Not the Sermon on the mount, the trial, nor the transfiguration. And I wouldn't trust Acts any further than I could throw it.

It is religion, not science, that is always getting things wrong. But unlike science, it will never admit it.

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Old 08-27-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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The Bible on the other hand is falling apart, piece by piece. Genesis and now Exodus does not look true, nor the Conquest, and certainly not the nativity or resurrection. Not the Sermon on the mount, the trial, nor the transfiguration. And I wouldn't trust Acts any further than I could throw it.

It is religion, not science, that is always getting things wrong. But unlike science, it will never admit it.
You're on a roll, Arq.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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Faith and Science are not opposed in the mature mind.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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The title of the above-linked article says it all: The World's Greatest Creation Scientists.

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