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Old 12-23-2007, 12:33 AM
 
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GokuB,

Please understand that you should not be asking people on a forum about this. This should be a matter between you and your family. Sure, it may be embarassing, but wouldn't you want your future children to talk to you about it rather than get advice from total strangers?

Give your parents some credit. Turn off the computer and go talk to them. They may may know more about the bible and what is good for you than you think!
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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ok. I thought this would be an easy question but does it matter what age you are? If you must know I guess I could tell you. The reason I'm kinda asking this question is because I'm pretty tight on religion lol (thats what my friends tell me) they say theres no god and I shouldn't believe in it, but I won't give up my belief that easy lol. They don't say it in a mean way. So don't get the wrong idea. There saying the bible is full of plot holes and they ask " is it alright to kiss and makeout? There has to be something in the bible saying something about kissing. Asking people online is one way of avoiding embarrassment. Plus this can benefit the forum too ^-^. once person already ask about sex. this one is about kissing. asking my parents isn't a good idea >.< because they don't really go to church much =\.
If you really believe the Bible, and you prefer a supernatural explanation to something natural than I suggest you research Lilith. She's apparently responsible for nocturnal emissions in young men. Anyway, I believe the early RCC took her out of the Bible but if I'm not mistaken she was in the Book of Genesis.

As far as your friends go... there's a lot of truth in what they speak of, but I'm only saying that from an atheist's point of view.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:46 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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ok. I thought this would be an easy question but does it matter what age you are?
Well, as a moderator, I must say it does matter - since we have an age restriction on this forum, and shouldn't allow anyone under 16 to post. It also determines the advice we give, since there's a big difference between a 12 year-old & an 18 year-old.

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If you must know I guess I could tell you. The reason I'm kinda asking this question is because I'm pretty tight on religion lol (thats what my friends tell me) they say theres no god and I shouldn't believe in it, but I won't give up my belief that easy lol. They don't say it in a mean way. So don't get the wrong idea. There saying the bible is full of plot holes and they ask " is it alright to kiss and makeout? There has to be something in the bible saying something about kissing. Asking people online is one way of avoiding embarrassment. Plus this can benefit the forum too ^-^. once person already ask about sex. this one is about kissing. asking my parents isn't a good idea >.< because they don't really go to church much =\.
Sorry I can't personally answer your question, since my religious beliefs are different from yours... maybe asking someone at a local church would help? Or perhaps post this (or have me move this) on the Christianity forum, since you only want the Christian/Biblical perspective. However, you'll get a variety of answers from them too, so maybe YOU need to figure this out from inside.
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Just a few miles outside of St. Louis
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ok. I thought this would be an easy question but does it matter what age you are? If you must know I guess I could tell you. The reason I'm kinda asking this question is because I'm pretty tight on religion lol (thats what my friends tell me) they say theres no god and I shouldn't believe in it, but I won't give up my belief that easy lol. They don't say it in a mean way. So don't get the wrong idea. There saying the bible is full of plot holes and they ask " is it alright to kiss and makeout? There has to be something in the bible saying something about kissing. Asking people online is one way of avoiding embarrassment. Plus this can benefit the forum too ^-^. once person already ask about sex. this one is about kissing. asking my parents isn't a good idea >.< because they don't really go to church much =\.
Like some of the others on this thread, I believe it would still be best if you spoke with your parents for guidance about this issue; they may surprise you. We are, after all, strangers, and as a parent, I know I would not have wanted my teenaged children speaking to strangers about this, (which is why I did my best to make sure my kids could talk to me about anything). However, if you truly are not comfortable talking with your parents about this, then you may wish to consider talking to your grandparents, an uncle or aunt, pastor, youth pastor, (if you have one in your church), Sunday School teacher, youth leader, or simply a trusted older member of your congregation.
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Baton Rouge
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Wow. Noone has even attempted to answer the question, like they're afraid of something. And since I'm a religious renegade anyway, I'll answer in my own personal beliefs.
For the most part there is nothing wrong with kissing. Otherwise we'd have to go back and look at all the little boys and girls (aged tots up to like 5-6 yrs old) that kissed and we though it was just "so cute". So kissing itself is not bad. I don't remember the bible saying "Thou shall not kiss". Especially as a sign of love or affection.
Having said that, the way you kiss and/or "make out" can be bad. To have a "real" kiss, I think you had better be in love. In which case, I also think you should be of certain age, say 16 and over. So little peck kisses aren't bad, but making out kissing just for the hell of it can be, expecially if you're really young.
And making out seriously (with all of the touchy feeling stuff) can really be bad if you're not old enough or seriously in love.

So there, I answered the question based on how the question appeared to be directed and on my own personal beliefs. Everyone is different. I can imagine there a lot of folk on here just stabbing this post with their eyes, but then again, that's why we live in America. What a great place.

Now, if GokuB is a kid (under 16), he should get off the thread before he gets in trouble. But I commend hiim for the question. It appears to be a completely innocent question. I had plenty of questions as a teen and I wish I had some other people to answer them then. I think the forums can be a great place to get a anonymous perspective because it offers many different ideas and beliefs as opposed with asking only one set of people (i.e. parents or friends) who may have a completely one-sided belief.

Assuming this guy is a kid, I do agree with an earlier post, try to imagine what your parents would think if they knew this about you. What did they teach you about how to act. When in doubt, just ask.
And don't worry about the atheists. The most important gift that God gave us is choice. That's the only thing you can control in this world, your choices. And you won't always make the best ones, but try hard always, and learn from the bad ones.
Merry Christmas & God Bless.

Last edited by darylwi; 12-23-2007 at 07:19 AM.. Reason: Too many assumptions.
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:09 AM
 
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ok. I thought this would be an easy question but does it matter what age you are? If you must know I guess I could tell you.

" is it alright to kiss and makeout? There has to be something in the bible saying something about kissing.

Asking people online is one way of avoiding embarrassment.
GokuB,

I'm going to take a shot at this simply because I am finding your question so incredibly sincere and genuine. (Along with the fact that I suspect you are sorta young, and there is something so incredibly endearing about your wanting to know the answer!)

I am not aware of ever having read anything in the Bible specifically about "kissing." There are references in the Bible to "kissing" ("Judas, must you betray me with a kiss?") but to the best of my knowledge, Jesus didn't issue any "do's" or "don'ts" as regards kissing, per se.

What I do think the Bible says that lends itself to your question is the message of loving others and honoring others respectfully. If you were my son or daughter would I tell you that it's okay to kiss? Yup. --BUT I would also be pointing out the fact that "kissing" can also lead to other "stuff" and that you might want to keep that it mind! You need to realize that you are young, that you are still "growing into" your self and your body and need to keep that in the forefront of your mind. When I was young, I went to a Christian school, and trust me, we were all asking the same, similar sort of question. But since you have clearly stated in your OP that you know that you should wait until you are married to have sex, then I think you deserve an honest answer to a very honest question!

Listen, I don't know for certain how old you are, and in many respects, you are correct in telling us that it basically shouldn't or doesn't matter. You simply want to find an answer to a fairly simple question. So for what it's worth, June is saying "yes, it's okay, but..." The "but" would be as follows:

If you are a guy, and the girl you are kissing says "no," then a "no" always means NO. If you are a girl, and you are aren't comfortable being kissed, then you have every right to say so. The Bible speaks to an underlying message of treating others the way we would wish to be treated ourselves. I am pretty sure Jesus had a sense of that! I am fairly confident that Jesus would not frown upon affection. But I don't think Jesus would be too comfortable with people running around exploiting other people.

Affection is not a bad thing. Kissing is not, by nature, a bad thing. We all go through what you are going through right now in bringing your question here. (And a part of me is smiling, thinking that some day, you will look back on this and be telling others "When I was younger, I posted the question online!") So if you are acting respectfully, and if you are not violating anyone else's boundaries, and if you are feeling that the other person is not violating yours, and if you are mature enough to be comfortable with what kissing will make you feel, and if you have all of that in a perspective, then I'm leaning towards "yes, it's okay." --But keep in mind the "but's" in what I have written, above.

-And for what it's worth, a part of me can't help but feel that your heart and mind are in the right place for even having asked in the first place. Good for you!

Be comfortable with yourself and who you are!

Take gentle care.
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Old 12-23-2007, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Missouri Ozarks
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Kissing is a good thing but you and the person you're kissing needs to be comfortable with that.
As far as making out seriously, you need to be older for that. (In my opinion anyway)
Parents are sometimes not the best people to talk to when it comes to sex but if you have an older sibling or someone you can trust, I would ask them some questions.
It's good that you asked this on a religion forum since this is your concern and not get involved in some porn site that may give you a twisted way of looking at things.
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Anywhere but here!
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I have read where a lot of people on here have told you that you should ask a parent or pastor and not the forum. The point is, you have already asked on the forum and I believe you are looking for some sincere advice from a Christian/Biblical perspective...you said yourself that your parents do not hold the same religious values as you do, therefore I completely understand why you would want to ask people of like minds.

I am going to try to give you the best advice I can here, however, I will first give you a little history and then I will tell you what I think just as I would if I was talking to one of my own children.

I am a mother of 4 children. My daughter is 17 and I have 3 boys (16, 12 and 6). My daughter, whom was saved when she was 13, made some very poor choices. She is now a single mother. While she does have the help of me and my husband, as well as my parents, the fact still remains that she has a (almost 6 month old) daughter. While that little girl is very much loved, my daughter's life has been extremely altered. Most of her plans and goals have had to be changed because she made bad decisions. This is just something for you to think about when you start "kissing". No, a kiss won't get a girl pregnant, but it all starts with a "kiss".

My oldest son, 16, has had one serious girlfriend. He really loved her, I think he actually still does. I know they kissed often, and probably "made out", however, one of the reasons they broke up was because she made my son very uncomfortable. She would sit on his lap and other things that he felt wasn't appropriate and wasn't ready for. He had told her from the beginning that there would be NO SEX! He was strong in that conviction before my daughter became pregnant, and even more so once she was pregnant. My sons are seeing first hand the realities of sex and the affects it can have on people's lives. I admire and commend my son completely for his steadfastness, in his decision! Not too many young men could have that much self control.

So, I guess the REAL questions for YOU would be:

How much self-control do you think you have? Do you think you can STOP before that kiss goes too far?

I have heard many Christian people say you shouldn't even kiss or hold hands. However, I think they need to open their eyes to society as we know it. In past generations, people were (and in some places still are) married by the time they're 14 years old.

Also, I'm assuming you're a boy, you have to keep in mind what the possible consequences could be for the young lady. Would you really want to see her dreams and aspirations go down the drain because the two of you made a poor decision? What about YOUR life? Would you be willing to give it all up to raise a child?

Is kissing allowed? I think this is something that has to come from within YOU! You need to talk to God about it. Once you talk to God about it, you'll know if it's right or wrong. And if you're still questioning it, once you start to kiss, you will either feel at peace about it, or you will be convicted by it.

Good luck to you! If you ever need someone to talk to about this, please feel free to send me a direct message.
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Old 12-27-2007, 01:40 AM
 
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oh thanks =D thanks for the advise. the whole parent advise is good but I would know exactly what there going to say, which is why I sought out to look for other peoples thoughts. yeah, I do have self control. I'm going for is, to have sex after I'm married. I'm pretty sure this will happen because I'm to damn stubborn. oh man, it seems that me and jesus will have to have a little chat.
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